Voxengo TEOTE automatic spectral balancer plugin released
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
It's very easy to overuse multiband compression. I used to overuse it and it would introduce a ridiculous amount of phase distortion. The track would occasionally sound 'better', but then it would begin to sound much worse on a second listen. Every time you listen to a track that's been heavily processed through a multiband comp, something is bound to be off; in other words, it can completely destroy the balance of your track and in such a nebulous way you will never know what hit you. This is why it's better to avoid it as a sweetener, it's completely not about that.
If you don't use MB compression as a way to fix things in a makeshift manner, you should think of it as another flavor of regular mixbus compression i.e. 2-3 dB reduction max. I oftentimes use different ratios as well as attack and release settings when compressing the low end and the rest of the track. It's simply because different bands may require different compression settings. If you have a lot of high frequency content, then you can also introduce another band with different compression settings fit for the high end. But overall, I would say multiband compression should be seen as just another form of glue compression, as something very subtle. It can completely destroy your mixes unless you know and hear what you're doing.
TEOTE and dynamic equalizers are about taming resonances and things of that nature, so it's much surgical than a regular MB compression, which is more about broader strokes and taming large portions of the frequency content rather than about reining in spikes and very specific frequencies.
If you don't use MB compression as a way to fix things in a makeshift manner, you should think of it as another flavor of regular mixbus compression i.e. 2-3 dB reduction max. I oftentimes use different ratios as well as attack and release settings when compressing the low end and the rest of the track. It's simply because different bands may require different compression settings. If you have a lot of high frequency content, then you can also introduce another band with different compression settings fit for the high end. But overall, I would say multiband compression should be seen as just another form of glue compression, as something very subtle. It can completely destroy your mixes unless you know and hear what you're doing.
TEOTE and dynamic equalizers are about taming resonances and things of that nature, so it's much surgical than a regular MB compression, which is more about broader strokes and taming large portions of the frequency content rather than about reining in spikes and very specific frequencies.
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
it's like drugs or cakeFapFilter wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:23 pm noob question, as i've never used any of these “(semi) automatic better mixer plugins“ (and no troll attempt, i promise), but why is seemingly 99.9% of the music mixing internet condemning MB compression as some crippling bandaid that you only should use if you have no other choice and even then with absolute care and now since Gulfoss et al it's suddenly (one of the) best thing(s) ever to fix / goodize your mix, despite being way more multiband than MB compression ever was?
I know bmanic was not one of those 99.9%, but still...
it's only bad if it's too little of it
if it's too much it's great
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- KVRAF
- 6780 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
MB compression only introduces phase shift at crossover points.crickey13 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:11 pm It's very easy to overuse multiband compression. I used to overuse it and it would introduce a ridiculous amount of phase distortion.
if those are linearphase, not even that...
that can be said for literally any type of processing.crickey13 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:11 pm It can completely destroy your mixes unless you know and hear what you're doing.
TEOTE can do 3 bandscrickey13 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:11 pm TEOTE and dynamic equalizers are about taming resonances and things of that nature, so it's much surgical than a regular MB compression, which is more about broader strokes and taming large portions of the frequency content rather than about reining in spikes and very specific frequencies.
And dynamic equalizers screw up phase (unless they're linear phase - in which case they screw up transients with pre ringing).
Teote has very clever crossovers with minimal phase distortion
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
Well, yeah, I'm not saying there is no overlap between MB compression and dynamic equalization, I mean you can use MB compressors in a manner similar to the way you would use a dynamic equalizer and the other way round, it's just that they're different and lend themselves to different tasks. If you want make dynamic notch cuts that pick out certain resonances, then I would rather pick a dynamic equalizer rather than a multiband compressor, it seems just more logical, but maybe that's me.
Overprocessing can be an issue everywhere, of course, but MB compression is often presented as the ultimate process to make your tracks sound pro, which it's not.
And TEOTE seems to be much more sophisticated and capable of much more than mere three band compression, ain't it.
Overprocessing can be an issue everywhere, of course, but MB compression is often presented as the ultimate process to make your tracks sound pro, which it's not.
And TEOTE seems to be much more sophisticated and capable of much more than mere three band compression, ain't it.
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- KVRian
- 1189 posts since 11 Jun, 2019
After probably 1000+ Comparisons there´s nothing left to say than "Why has that Thing not been integrated into every DAW yet?".
Grumpy Award - Sweetener of the Century! Is there a Chance to get TEOTE Food somewhen?
All the Best!
Grumpy Award - Sweetener of the Century! Is there a Chance to get TEOTE Food somewhen?
All the Best!
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- KVRist
- 276 posts since 7 Apr, 2012 from Stockholm
I just got this Puppy and must say....very happy with the result.
...it's very efficient and great sounding.
Only tried on drums and full mixes so far ,
but love what it does and how it sounds.
Been eyeballing it for a while and very happy i finally pulled the trigger
...it's very efficient and great sounding.
Only tried on drums and full mixes so far ,
but love what it does and how it sounds.
Been eyeballing it for a while and very happy i finally pulled the trigger
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Just got it too and love it. Voxengo stuff rules. Wish there was a yellow UI color.
- KVRAF
- 6997 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Black is the new yellow....briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:28 am Just got it too and love it. Voxengo stuff rules. Wish there was a yellow UI color.
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- KVRian
- 1316 posts since 23 May, 2016
There's one..briefcasemanx wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:28 am Just got it too and love it. Voxengo stuff rules. Wish there was a yellow UI color.
Just use a custom scheme
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- KVRAF
- 6997 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Suspension of international sales of Voxengo software
Details online
https://www.voxengo.com/press/suspensio ... tware-481/
Details online
https://www.voxengo.com/press/suspensio ... tware-481/
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- KVRAF
- 3688 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Which is a bummer.
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- KVRian
- 501 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
They are back apparently. Just went looking to download one of the free ones and saw a press release saying international sales are back on

, "thanks to a collaboration with Tokyo Dawn Records"

