Roli: Equator 2 is here !

[BONES]

I use a mouse, not a controller, and the filter is fine. I can rip the cutoff around as fast as I like and it stays smooth the whole time. If you're using a controller, it's most likely MIDI that's causing the stepping because it's just 0-127 discreet values.

And where are these artifacts? I'm not hearing anything but if you are, you can use it to work out which of those 6 notes is Equator 2. If you can't, or you won't, then I have to assume your ears are deceiving you or you're just full of it.

Edit: NM I'm dumb. Didn't click Equator 2 in Connect. smh

You're not dumb, Roli is. It is not at all intuitive and it is different from the way they tell you to do it, too.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I use a mouse, not a controller, and the filter is fine. I can rip the cutoff around as fast as I like and it stays smooth the whole time. If you're using a controller, it's most likely MIDI that's causing the stepping because it's just 0-127 discreet values.

And where are these artifacts? I'm not hearing anything but if you are, you can use it to work out which of those 6 notes is Equator 2. If you can't, or you won't, then I have to assume your ears are deceiving you or you're just full of it.

Edit: NM I'm dumb. Didn't click Equator 2 in Connect. smh

You're not dumb, Roli is. It is not at all intuitive and it is different from the way they tell you to do it, too.

I don't care about your audio file, I don't know which filter you are using or what your settings are. I'm talking about the low pass 12 and 24 at full resonance. And again, it's mostly adjusting on the GUI, with a mouse. Not so much from a controller or automation, so not a big deal. If I get some time, I may post a clip. But I don't particularly care if you believe me. Anyone can turn on a saw wave, one filter, turn the res to max and adjust the cutoff between 13 and 15khz and hear some aliasing or some kind of digital nastiness and a bit of stepping. But it's ok, not the end of the world. It sound fine over most of the range. It just jumped out at me at first because I adjusted it on the GUI where it's very obvious. I don't care if you notice it or not.

[whannel]

Asking again now that a few more users have bought it. Still not seeing a lot of content, had hoped the developers might have shared more by now?

6.5GB of content is "not much", seriously?

Pretty sure they mean audio demos of the content.

Indeed, videos I meant, just to help get a visual on what was being used for the sound, given it could be a sample.

I bought it anyway, BONES tends to talk well of synths I enjoy so I've trusted you all on this one. If my computer can handle it I'll maybe manage some footage to show what I mean while other stores still have it on offer, for anyone still on the fence over buying. Roli having more video content planned will be a better source though I'd think.

[elnn]

No oversampling?

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[MADMANJ]

Equator 2 in Bitwig is completele unusable, It is terrible, it is constantly crashing and it is even causing I cannot load projects anymore with Equator 2 in it. Anyone else has the same issues? I have send a ticket to Roli. In this state it's a waste of money.

[aMUSEd]

Nope

[trackbout]

[simmo75]

Equator 2 in Bitwig is completele unusable, It is terrible, it is constantly crashing and it is even causing I cannot load projects anymore with Equator 2 in it. Anyone else has the same issues? I have send a ticket to Roli. In this state it's a waste of money.

Works excellently here, Bitwig 3.3 on mac Twatalina.

[MADMANJ]

Works excellently here, Bitwig 3.3 on mac Twatalina.

So probably it's a WIN10 issue only. Or maybe even a local problem on my PC, if no one else experience the issues. However I do not have problems with any other softsynth or plugin.

[goodplayer]

Equator 2 in Bitwig is completele unusable, It is terrible, it is constantly crashing and it is even causing I cannot load projects anymore with Equator 2 in it. Anyone else has the same issues? I have send a ticket to Roli. In this state it's a waste of money.

Works excellently here, Bitwig 3.3 on mac Twatalina.

My Bitwig 3.3 works ok too with Equator 2 and Seaboard 49 under win10

[LarryT63]

Looks like a nice upgrade from the original!

[Echoes in the Attic]

Equator is working fine in Bitwig on Win 10 here, but I admit I have not yet saved it in a project.

[BONES]

I don't care about your audio file, I don't know which filter you are using or what your settings are.

I told you what the settings were, so that's no excuse, The reality is that you know what you said was pure bullshit and you are afraid to make a guess, because a guess is all you'd be making. You made a statement, with no supporting evidence, I provided evidence to disprove what you said and you have no means of combating that, so you choose instead to bury your head in the sand. Pathetic.

I'm talking about the low pass 12 and 24 at full resonance.

And the 12db version is precisely what I have provided.

And again, it's mostly adjusting on the GUI, with a mouse.

So you only get digital artifacts, at around 13k I believe you said, when turning a virtual knob on a computer screen? Keep digging, sunshine, you are just making yourself look more clueless by the minute.

Anyone can turn on a saw wave, one filter, turn the res to max and adjust the cutoff between 13 and 15khz and hear some aliasing or some kind of digital nastiness and a bit of stepping.

No they couldn't. For a start, most oscillators don't go that high, so you won't have anything to filter or resonate at those frequencies, and many that do are full of their own aliasing. But most of us would not perceive sound at that frequency, except maybe in a soundproof booth and if it was a continuous tone (hearing test). To suggest you can pick things like filter artifacting out at those frequencies is plainly absurd. You need to start living in the real world and stop spreading bullshit.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I don't care about your audio file, I don't know which filter you are using or what your settings are.

I told you what the settings were, so that's no excuse, The reality is that you know what you said was pure bullshit and you are afraid to make a guess, because a guess is all you'd be making. You made a statement, with no supporting evidence, I provided evidence to disprove what you said and you have no means of combating that, so you choose instead to bury your head in the sand. Pathetic.

I'm talking about the low pass 12 and 24 at full resonance.

And the 12db version is precisely what I have provided.

And again, it's mostly adjusting on the GUI, with a mouse.

So you only get digital artifacts, at around 13k I believe you said, when turning a virtual knob on a computer screen? Keep digging, sunshine, you are just making yourself look more clueless by the minute.

Anyone can turn on a saw wave, one filter, turn the res to max and adjust the cutoff between 13 and 15khz and hear some aliasing or some kind of digital nastiness and a bit of stepping.

No they couldn't. For a start, most oscillators don't go that high, so you won't have anything to filter or resonate at those frequencies, and many that do are full of their own aliasing. But most of us would not perceive sound at that frequency, except maybe in a soundproof booth and if it was a continuous tone (hearing test). To suggest you can pick things like filter artifacting out at those frequencies is plainly absurd. You need to start living in the real world and stop spreading bullshit.

Read the label on the filter cutoff.
I’ll post an audio file when I get around to it. Not at my computer currently. In the mean time why don’t you try to relax a little and imagine the possibility that there could be different behaviors in different systems. That could be. Or maybe your system is doing something special like when it didn’t given you any resonance in Vitals filter. And then magically it did. Who knows.
I’ll post a damn file tomorrow, just take a break on bitchiness for half a minute.

[Noumena]

Anyone can turn on a saw wave, one filter, turn the res to max and adjust the cutoff between 13 and 15khz and hear some aliasing or some kind of digital nastiness and a bit of stepping.

No they couldn't. For a start, most oscillators don't go that high, so you won't have anything to filter or resonate at those frequencies, and many that do are full of their own aliasing. But most of us would not perceive sound at that frequency, except maybe in a soundproof booth and if it was a continuous tone (hearing test). To suggest you can pick things like filter artifacting out at those frequencies is plainly absurd. You need to start living in the real world and stop spreading bullshit.

If you put resonance to the maximum on a filter that self oscillates you could certainly produce frequencies in that range and it is true that this is where most digital filters fall down, for a number of reasons. Do equator 2's filters self oscilate at max res when excited by a sawtooth playing at lower frequencies? I am 47, used to play guitar in an My Bloody Valentine-volume band and have some hearing loss. I can easily hear sounds in the 13-15k range--cassettes only really cut off over 15k, even.

I can definitely support the idea that unsmoothed midi control would cause more noticable stepping if we are talking about a self-oscilating filter at those frequencies--perceptually each 8-bit value step in the higher frequencies would be more apparent than in the lower ones. So are we talking about a lack of parameter smoothing? Some instruments do a good job of this and some do not.

Someone with the proper tools should check out equator's output and look for aliasing and distortion if that is a concern... better to see it in black and white than to argue about ears.