U-he Hardware - CVilization Eurorack Module
- u-he
- 30187 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
good stuff! so easy to create parts/movement!justin3am wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:44 pm Finally got around to finishing my first CVilization video...
I need to find a better angle for the next one, my blurry hand covers most of the shot throughout the video.![]()
let's have one with the 4 wogglebugs! let's get crazy!!!
- KVRAF
- 13123 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
all goodjustin3am wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:31 pmI wanted to do something where you could clearly see and hear what's happening first. My next video will get a little more crazy (still, not 4 Woggelbugs crazy). Hopefully December will be less eventful than the last two months, so I can get it done in a reasonable amount of time.
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anything you do is probably going to give me an idea or two
im just very eager for as many wogglebug vids as i can see, want to get more out of mine, really don't use it to its fullest.
btw, while im here...
been thinking about rearranging things.
was wondering, do you know if the make noise skiff, from the original cartesian (before rene 2) will power the 5v for cvz?
thinking about putting it at the front, rather than having to reach for it, it's not like a filter where you might sweep it then leave it, you can spend a good while just tweaking those 8 knobs, and it can be a bit much on my back
have a mantis behind that, so it can go in that one if not.
i could poogle, but you're clever so might know
- KVRAF
- 8478 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
Urs what did you take away from this project in regard to acquiring the FCC/CE mark? I find it pretty hard
to believe that each modular developer is paying upwards of $5k (according to the net) in fees to get that
mark on every module they develop. Many have to be skipping it entirely as that kind of cost seems very
prohibitive for small developers. Maybe you were not required to get the FCC mark as RF was ok?
Anyway, I'm just curious. No doubt many of us consumers are completely oblivious to the many costs
of bringing a product like this to market.
to believe that each modular developer is paying upwards of $5k (according to the net) in fees to get that
mark on every module they develop. Many have to be skipping it entirely as that kind of cost seems very
prohibitive for small developers. Maybe you were not required to get the FCC mark as RF was ok?
Anyway, I'm just curious. No doubt many of us consumers are completely oblivious to the many costs
of bringing a product like this to market.
- KVRAF
- 13123 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
@vurt
I'm using CVz in a Make Noise skiff in the video. Definitely provides 5v.
I asked Tas to request an option for using the module upside down. When used in a skiff like that, I'd really prefer having the jacks at the top. I tried using it that way as is, but if the encoders were flipped, it would be much easier to work with. Right now, I find it works best when used in an upper row.
I'm using CVz in a Make Noise skiff in the video. Definitely provides 5v.
I asked Tas to request an option for using the module upside down. When used in a skiff like that, I'd really prefer having the jacks at the top. I tried using it that way as is, but if the encoders were flipped, it would be much easier to work with. Right now, I find it works best when used in an upper row.
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- KVRAF
- 13123 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I was under the impression that euro modules are considered a peripheral, without their own power supply, so they aren't covered by the same emissions/susceptibility requirements. I figure even many cases makers could be shielded from the harsher regulations because they don't actually make the line lump PSUs they use. Anything which has a mains inlet is scrutinized much more than something that runs off 15v DC.pekbro wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:48 pm Urs what did you take away from this project in regard to acquiring the FCC/CE mark?
I've always wanted to take one of my cases, full of modules, to the compliance lab that Nektar uses. Rates are indeed steep but it would be interesting to what's put out both in terms of conducted (though power lines) and radiated emissions. We have a small setup for checking radiated emissions at our office but I don't know how to use it.
- u-he
- 30187 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I don't deal with the specifics myself, but I think Justin is right that peripherals are in a different category than things which are fully self contained. For instance, I'd assume that having an external Power Brick puts a unit already into a small risk category where the manufacturer can self certify risk compliance from electrocution with ease.
Now, environmental stuff is a different issue. The amount of (electronic) paperwork to get licenses to manufacture, package and ship a product, such as obtaining a WEEE registration number and continuously complying with it had people go "oh, wait, there's more..." all the time.
Costs were not much of an issue overall, but learning the rules, filling in the forms and placing the right information and seals wherever needed... sheesh.
Now, environmental stuff is a different issue. The amount of (electronic) paperwork to get licenses to manufacture, package and ship a product, such as obtaining a WEEE registration number and continuously complying with it had people go "oh, wait, there's more..." all the time.
Costs were not much of an issue overall, but learning the rules, filling in the forms and placing the right information and seals wherever needed... sheesh.
- u-he
- 30187 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
There's already ticket for that. We're slowly assembling a list of little improvements for the first update. If was knows about this, there's a good chance we'll add it (It's also a no-brainer to flip the encoders as they live in a table of indices anyway).justin3am wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 amI asked Tas to request an option for using the module upside down.
- KVRAF
- 13123 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Luckily I don't have to deal with the paper work but I do handle our e-waste recycling. It's such a mess here.Urs wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:51 amNow, environmental stuff is a different issue. The amount of (electronic) paperwork to get licenses to manufacture, package and ship a product, such as obtaining a WEEE registration number and continuously complying with it had people go "oh, wait, there's more..." all the time.
Costs were not much of an issue overall, but learning the rules, filling in the forms and placing the right information and seals wherever needed... sheesh.
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
see! this is why asking is better than poogle.justin3am wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 am @vurt
I'm using CVz in a Make Noise skiff in the video. Definitely provides 5v.
I asked Tas to request an option for using the module upside down. When used in a skill like that, I'd really prefer having the jacks at the top. I tried using it that way as is, but if the encoders were flipped, it would be much easier to work with. Right now, I find it works best when used in an upper row.
id have got "yes" from poogle.
but i wouldn't have got the upside down module info.
i hadn't even thought about the jack's, so something to consider!
thanks for the help
- u-he
- 30187 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- addled muppet weed
- 111250 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
that does get a bit mental when panning at audio rate

i did try a quad speaker set up, got a bit sea sick tbh
i did try a quad speaker set up, got a bit sea sick tbh
- u-he
- 30187 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
And here I thought this is the first moment where we actually reach out to the Eurocrack community
i did try a quad speaker set up, got a bit sea sick tbh![]()
(I love quadraphonic sound though... if I was doing live sets only, I'd do that all the time.)