Vital - Released

[bmanic]

I wrote this back on December 4th:

I haven't had this much fun with a new synth in quite some time.

The more time I spend with Vital the more the truth of that statement is reinforced.

100% agreed. I'm having a total blast with Vital!

Somehow I completely gel with the workflow, probably because so many parts are similar to how Alchemy works.. actually many things are quicker and easier to setup in Vital due to the drag and drop nature (though some things are a bit fiddly for that very same reason).

I just absolutely love that we finally have a synth that doesn't really care how many layers deep you want to go in terms of modulating stuff. Actually, what IS the limit? So far I've only gone 3 layers deep, same as Alchemy. Is there a limit or is it just the 64 modulation slots in the matrix as the only limit? Can I have a modulator modulating a modulator x 32?

[overhishead]

This was one of the first things I made when I added mod remap to Vital:
https://twitter.com/matttytel/status/11 ... 53024?s=20

haha cool phone sounds.

Quick question, is there a way to unhook ENV1 as the default envelope so it's easier to set different envelopes and LFOs to the oscillators? Its not clear how to work around.

[Markin]

Here's a calming piece of music of mine to to distract yourself from replying :
https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/dr ... ts/ambient

Very well done indeed.


Anyhow I have question about the wavetables within Vital.
Is there anyway that Vital can insert a single cycle waveform at the end of a table?

I have a simple sinewave at the start of the table and would like to insert a complex waveform at the end, so at that point the table would just consist of 2 Cycles, a sine and a complex waveform and I would like to experiment using the various modifiers to move through the table.

I know how to remix 2 completely different wavetables by the resynth method but still can't quite work out if the single cycle option is possible?

[digitalboytn]

Just because a synth has wavetable capabilities it doesn't mean it's only a wavetable synth.

For the record,I love wavetable synths...

Although we can achieve so much with just the basic waveforms,I like to scroll through a bunch of wavetables and find some pleasant surprises along the way...

Right brain and left brain working together...

When we have fun making music,it translates into an intangible element that the listener can perceive

[Psuper]

I dont want to assume, but maybe most on here do not produce DnB music in the vein of Noisa, Mefjus, Emperor........?

If not, then I can understand why WT synthesis is not appealing. In fact, if I didnt produce DnB music, I would probably hate WT synthesis. As I said before, WT synths do one thing exceptionally well, and that is really heavy bass sound design. Other than that, I think its pretty useless. In fact, when I need the general stuff like leads, pads, some basses, percussion, drums, FX and so on....I always turn to other VST's

Style of music per type of synth/daw/etc is 'in the box' thinking within a box in a box. Not knocking "ITB" thinking, it can be advantageous to not deviate from accepted group-thought if only due to the fact that there will be more resources out there to pull from.

I primarily look internally for inspiration and consistently avoided using existing patches/samples/etc, even down to effects, routing, techniques, etc and have fortunately experienced great success in many aspects of life by giving most weight to my own ideas backed by old fashioned experimentation and hard work. Not everything worked out, and that's a good thing.

One piece of advice that goes a long way for anyone: we are more critical of ourselves than others are of us. If you record yourself and like what you hear, chances are a solid percentage of others will too. I try to keep that in mind with everything in life.

So ya, crank out those orchestral symphonies with all your instruments you played and sampled yourself for Vital should you desire. Everyone else will only hear the end result, and if you are honest with yourself and like it, they will too!

[fgimian]

Perhaps I'm missing it, but is there any way to set the output volume of each filter so you can balance between them? This is quite different to Drive, I'm just referring to a basic output level of each filter or a balance knob between them?

e.g. Hive has a Volume knob on each filter

[neverbeeninariot]

Is there anyway that Vital can insert a single cycle waveform at the end of a table?

I've been trying to figure this out too but without success. Posted on the vital forum earlier today, no answer yet...

[Tricky-Loops]

it's refreshing when a new synth comes along and brings new sounds and flavors to the table.

WT synths are hardly new....

teksonik said the synth is new, with 'new sounds and flavors'... nothing about WT synths being 'new'...

Try to avoid feeding the trolls. In fact, a post like mine here should also be ignored. I know that sometimes we get an emotional reaction to a post that compels us to post something negative and not constructive. The way out is to practice ignoring those feelings and not replying. So use this post to exercise this. Avoid replying to post like this and other's we've seen. Help keep the thread on-topic.

Here's a calming piece of music of mine to to distract yourself from replying :


https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/dr ... ts/ambient

JFYI...

[fisherKing]

Try to avoid feeding the trolls. In fact, a post like mine here should also be ignored. I know that sometimes we get an emotional reaction to a post that compels us to post something negative and not constructive. The way out is to practice ignoring those feelings and not replying. So use this post to exercise this. Avoid replying to post like this and other's we've seen. Help keep the thread on-topic.

Here's a calming piece of music of mine to to distract yourself from replying :

JFYI...

respect!

[muki]

e.g. Hive has a Volume knob on each filter

...and pigments has the full enchilada of
volume, mix, routing (parallel/seriel)...

hmmm: comes time comes updates, i hope

[fgimian]

I did a quick little CPU comparison between Hive, Serum, Surge and Vital, all on default settings for quality.

I used 2 oscillators, one was a sawtooth, the other a wavetable, with an LFO modulating wavetable positions. Each of the two oscillators was set to 16 voice unison and I had a chord sequenced to play on each.

Hive and Vital were almost identical in terms of CPU usage, Serum was about twice as high as was Surge.

This alone is a huge reason for me to be excited about Vital alone. given its power and sound quality, the CPU usage is significantly better than Serum for a similar sound.

Surge is an amazing synth too, but it sounded the most different to the others. Something is strange about the unison and the way they interact with the volume envelope in Surge. It means that you hear a punch to the attack even though the sustain of the amp env is set to 100%.

I'm only craving a things in Vital:

* Filter output volume for each filter so you can blend between them
* Up / down keyboard shortcuts to browse through presets
* An arp similar to Hive / Sylenth1
* A way to modulate the delay time to produce tape-style warble even when tempo sync is enabled
* Undo and redo

These are really the things that Hive does better imho.

[muki]

* A way to modulate the delay time to produce tape-style warble even when tempo sync is enabled

that's feasible...kind of...you can modulate just about anything...also the delay time
but...it doesn't sound right...
we need a free running LFO and RND imho

the only-triggered-LFO doesn't do the job with things like wobbly-tape-simulations imho...

bte,
there is a dedicated forum (also for feature requests):

https://forum.vital.audio/

[The Nerdy Music Guy]

The "Sync" button on the LFOs and RNDs makes them free running, doesn't it? The name is not very intuitive, but I think it's supposed to mean "sync to song position".

Also, a funny thing when modulating the delay: the interpolation noise gets worse at higher oversampling rates.

Edit:
For example, here I'm using a modulator in sync mode in conjunction with the probability trick I mentioned earlier, to modulate the osc pitch and some other things to add occasional tape like pitch drops:

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-vital

[Hink]

if you had a post deleted tonight by me I can promise you I'll be deleting anything that isn't on topic...done babysitting...and if that doesn't worrk I'm gonna suspend a handful of people until this thread is no longer relevant...this thread is about a synth, one that apparently many like...but a few people just refuse to show the poor dev any respect...I'm just gonna delete them...or we could just grow up.

Apologies to all those being considerate (most of the people) and to the dev...

[The Nerdy Music Guy]

Thanks a lot, Hink!