Arturia V Collection 8 official thread

[Markin]

Who says anyone is charged extra for this? I was referring to it taking extra time, not additional charges. If anything they probably make money on that because NKS integration is a selling point for many customers these days.

Well you already accepted it is a lot of hard work to include NI integration.
I think it is fairly obvious time is money.
You are right! it is a selling point but the fact remains users who don't own NI kit will be indirectly subsidizing those that do.
I really can't see it any other way.
Sorry.

[aMUSEd]

Who says anyone is charged extra for this? I was referring to it taking extra time, not additional charges. If anything they probably make money on that because NKS integration is a selling point for many customers these days.

Well you already accepted it is a lot of hard work to include NI integration.
I think it is fairly obvious time is money.
You are right! it is a selling point but the fact remains users who don't own NI kit will be indirectly subsidizing those that do.
I really can't see it any other way.
Sorry.

It's all part of the plugin development, there are always features that benefit some users more than others but overall they all contribute to the success of the plugins and it's just silly to try and separate out one aspect from the others.

[telecode]

i just cant get into the AL V GUI.

[Markin]

It's all part of the plugin development, there are always features that benefit some users more than others but overall they all contribute to the success of the plugins and it's just silly to try and separate out one aspect from the others.

Agreed, forgive me for being so selfish, anything that benefits the wider community can only be a good thing.

[aMUSEd]

i just cant get into the AL V GUI.

tbh I thought that at first but I'm finding it encourages exploration of a vast amount of patches - I think it has moved from being synth centric to patch centric, which I like provided those patches have decent organisation

[Stefken]

I own v6, fx collection, pigments 2 and a mk2 keylab and my upgrade price is 300e, which i think is a bit much. I expected 150 tbh with the price beeing at max between 100 and 200. Gonna wait and see.

Yep. Feels a bit wrong that loyal customers pay WAY more in the long run than someone buying full v8 today. $300 upgrade price definitely turned me away!

Same here. I upgraded several times for 200 euro but 300 euro for an upgrade while new customers pay 500 for the whole collection is way out of proportion.

I'm not used to Arturia pulling stuff like that to loyal users.

Is upgrade price of software influenced by having registered a hardware synth/keyboard/... of any kind ??? THX

Yes. If you have previously bought Arturia stuff (either hardware or software), you will get a custom , lower price.

I have quite a lot of Arturia: collection V 6, pigments, several of the effect packages, ...
In the past I could upgrade my V collection for 200 euro/dollar. It would seem that is only the case now when you upgrade from the previous version (collection7)?

I'm used to a better deal. Sorry, 300 euro is too much Arturia. No deal.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

It reminds me of how Repro-5 is wired, per the Voice Panner in the tweaks page: the 'default' behavior their is identical to how Dispersion is operating on JUP 4: playing one note will not 'advance' to the next voice setting, it will just keep retriggering the same voice over and over. But, U-he smartly added the little 'Realocate' toggle switch, and if you switch it to OFF, then pressing one note continuously will cycle through all of the voices. This is precisely what JUP 8 needs!

Well, in the case is RePro, that default behavior is exactly how a hardware Prophet recycles voices. Turn it on, play a C3, it gets allocated to voice 1. Pay a C3 again and again and again and it'll still be on voice 1. It tries to reuse the same voice and has some logic about how it assigns voices. That's why I thought maybe the Poly mode would make a difference with Jupiter V4 but alas it did not.

[DarkStar]

Who says anyone is charged extra for this? I was referring to it taking extra time, not additional charges. If anything they probably make money on that because NKS integration is a selling point for many customers these days.

Well you already accepted it is a lot of hard work to include NI integration.
I think it is fairly obvious time is money.
You are right! it is a selling point but the fact remains users who don't own NI kit will be indirectly subsidizing those that do.
I really can't see it any other way.
Sorry.

It's all part of the plugin development, there are always features that benefit some users more than others but overall they all contribute to the success of the plugins and it's just silly to try and separate out one aspect from the others.

Q: If the software had NKS support, why would you ever buy an Arturia keyboard?

[felis]

....Q: If the software had NKS support, why would you ever buy an Arturia keyboard?

I bought a Keylab because it has release velocity, and the NI boards don't.

[aMUSEd]

Who says anyone is charged extra for this? I was referring to it taking extra time, not additional charges. If anything they probably make money on that because NKS integration is a selling point for many customers these days.

Well you already accepted it is a lot of hard work to include NI integration.
I think it is fairly obvious time is money.
You are right! it is a selling point but the fact remains users who don't own NI kit will be indirectly subsidizing those that do.
I really can't see it any other way.
Sorry.

It's all part of the plugin development, there are always features that benefit some users more than others but overall they all contribute to the success of the plugins and it's just silly to try and separate out one aspect from the others.

Q: If the software had NKS support, why would you ever buy an Arturia keyboard?

Actually I do also have an Arturia one, and in terms of overall integration with Arturia plugins the Arturia keyboard, unsurprisingly, is the better option as it shows all params without needing additional files (which means it even supports the ones that don't yet have NKS versions). However the Arturia keyboard I have is the cheaper model and lacks aftertouch, and I prefer my S Series mk II keyboard feel by far, and the fact is, I don't just use Arturia plugins anyway, so my need for NKS goes beyond this.

[telecode]

Q: If the software had NKS support, why would you ever buy an Arturia keyboard?

The Arturia keylabs have all pre-configured settings that map to the various knobs and settings of the soft synth VSTs when you want to used them in standalone mode. Not sure how beneficial the keylabs are when used with the Analog Lab software.

If I were a heavy heavy user of Arturia V Col I would get one of their keylabs. But truth is, I only mostly use two or three of the things in V Col. The others I just occasionally play around with and kill time with.

[DarkStar]

^^^^
Wouldn't full NKS integration do the same? (Genuine question)

[v1o]

They claim it's a jupiter 8, so it should be able to do what a jupiter 8 can do, with just one instance of the plugin. Otherwise it's false advertising

What doesn't it do?

[superscan]

^^^^
Wouldn't full NKS integration do the same? (Genuine question)

Yes, that’s the benefit of NKS - the programmatic mappings of parameters to the knobs on the keyboard. Works great. I wish Native Instruments would decouple the requirement of using Komplete Kontrol as a wrapper and allow the NKS control code to be embedded in the vst.

[briefcasemanx]

The Juno 6 is dummy thicc.