Arturia V Collection 8 official thread

[zvenx]

Yeah even a lifetime license requires the occasional log on.
Don't remember how they defined occasional.
rsp

Last I heard, it was every 7 days. It's annoying but you're best just letting the Cloud Manager software run in the background.

Seems that way.
I just tried to log in and I had to go remember my password
rsp

[zvenx]

In less that 24 hours, all things being equal, one of the new synths will have competition.
Things are about to get 'interesting'
rsp

[tonedef71]

one of the new synths will have competition.

Which one?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

In less that 24 hours, all things being equal, one of the new synths will have competition.
Things are about to get 'interesting'
rsp

Is the GForce Jupiter-8 about to drop?

Note: I have no idea if that will actually be the next GForce instrument.

[Stefken]

Yeah even a lifetime license requires the occasional log on.
Don't remember how they defined occasional.
rsp

Last I heard, it was every 7 days. It's annoying but you're best just letting the Cloud Manager software run in the background.

but you have to keep the Roland Cloud software app running in the background perpetually to use it.

Dunno. Not that big a deal imo. Tons of stuff runs in the background anyway.
Imagine this: a synth where you have the dial in the sound manually each time you want to use it

[mholloway]

Dunno. Not that big a deal imo. Tons of stuff runs in the background anyway.
Imagine this: a synth where you have the dial in the sound manually each time you want to use it

I can't argue against it not bothering you, that's your opinion and that's fine of course.
But I think it's silly to say "tons of stuff runs in the background anyway" and pretend like that is somehow an argument in defense of Roland Cloud's bogus system. It's just not even true, as pertains to plugins, which is indeed what we are discussing here. As to the second line above, it has nothing to do with what we are talking about; this is a matter of copy-protection and consumer access to 'purchased' goods. How you think you're making a relevant point there is absolutely beyond me.

Put it this way: I own dozens upon dozens upon dozens of software instruments. The Roland Cloud 'lifetime key' synths are the only synths of those many dozens that I'd need to run an app in the background in order to to keep their license active. Nothing else -- not NI, not Arturia, not u-he, not g-force (I could go on and on) -- requires this sort of behavior. So I think you brushing this requirement off as "tons of stuff runs in the background anyway" is a baseless, say-nothing 'argument.'

If NI required Native Access to run constantly on your system in order for people's purchased software to remain 'authorized', people in this forum would lose their minds with rage over it. It's a big deal, regardless of whether it bothers you personally or not.

[mholloway]

In less that 24 hours, all things being equal, one of the new synths will have competition.
Things are about to get 'interesting'
rsp

Huh? So.....someone else is announcing either a Juno-6 or a Jupiter-8 emulation? G-Force?

If so that would be highly disappointing. G-force have wonderful synths, but the last thing we need is another friggin Juno.... (and between Roland Cloud, Arturia and Diva we are pretty well covered on the Jupiter, as well).

[JonSolo]

I would say the same goes for the OB department.

[trusampler]

Arturia's experience with building Analog synths in the last few years, has helped them tremendously. V-Collection 8 is well worth the money. I love how programmable the controller options are for midi as well. The newer Jupiter/ Juno emulations are great as well..

[Arashi]

I agree that it doesn't quite hold up to all those in terms of of accuracy of emulation, I just think it's easy to get nice sounds out of it.

I agree with this. Mini V doesn't sound even remotely like a Minimoog, but I've made a bunch of cool sounds with it. I just consider it a totally different synth.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Dunno. Not that big a deal imo. Tons of stuff runs in the background anyway.
Imagine this: a synth where you have the dial in the sound manually each time you want to use it

I can't argue against it not bothering you, that's your opinion and that's fine of course.
But I think it's silly to say "tons of stuff runs in the background anyway" and pretend like that is somehow an argument in defense of Roland Cloud's bogus system. It's just not even true, as pertains to plugins, which is indeed what we are discussing here. As to the second line above, it has nothing to do with what we are talking about; this is a matter of copy-protection and consumer access to 'purchased' goods. How you think you're making a relevant point there is absolutely beyond me.

Put it this way: I own dozens upon dozens upon dozens of software instruments. The Roland Cloud 'lifetime key' synths are the only synths of those many dozens that I'd need to run an app in the background in order to to keep their license active. Nothing else -- not NI, not Arturia, not u-he, not g-force (I could go on and on) -- requires this sort of behavior. So I think you brushing this requirement off as "tons of stuff runs in the background anyway" is a baseless, say-nothing 'argument.'

If NI required Native Access to run constantly on your system in order for people's purchased software to remain 'authorized', people in this forum would lose their minds with rage over it. It's a big deal, regardless of whether it bothers you personally or not.

The other reason I think that kind of system is just wrong is that these developers who do this, know full well that people wouldn't put up with it if all plugins required a service running in the background that checked your licenses. It's not just that Roland Cloud needs to check every week. Apparently Roli check once a month now with Equator. People put up with this for one or two products/bundles, like Rolan Cloud or Roli. But if every dev had this system, then for most people, at least one plugin would be asking them to sign in to something every day to check the license. It is bogus, and I find it pretty immoral to do something that would not be acceptable to anyone if all companies did it.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

In less that 24 hours, all things being equal, one of the new synths will have competition.
Things are about to get 'interesting'
rsp

Huh? So.....someone else is announcing either a Juno-6 or a Jupiter-8 emulation? G-Force?

If so that would be highly disappointing. G-force have wonderful synths, but the last thing we need is another friggin Juno.... (and between Roland Cloud, Arturia and Diva we are pretty well covered on the Jupiter, as well).

My new guess: Cherry Audio Juno-60. They already had the 60 modules in Voltage Modular and then released a standalone 106 plugin. Makes sense if they do a Juno-60 standalone VSTi.

[mholloway]

In less that 24 hours, all things being equal, one of the new synths will have competition.
Things are about to get 'interesting'
rsp

Huh? So.....someone else is announcing either a Juno-6 or a Jupiter-8 emulation? G-Force?

If so that would be highly disappointing. G-force have wonderful synths, but the last thing we need is another friggin Juno.... (and between Roland Cloud, Arturia and Diva we are pretty well covered on the Jupiter, as well).

My new guess: Cherry Audio Juno-60. They already had the 60 modules in Voltage Modular and then released a standalone 106 plugin. Makes sense if they do a Juno-60 standalone VSTi.

Doubtful. Their last two standalone synths had teasers launched 1-2 weeks in advance, with plenty of 'build-up' to the day of announcement. Plus I think a Juno-60 would just be flat-out redundant since they already have the Juno 106 emulation.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I hope you’re right, I’d much rather have another Jupiter out there. It’s not U-he, it’s not Synapse, that leaves maybe Cherry Audio, GForce, and Xils as the only companies I can think of that might take on a vintage emulation of a Jupiter or Juno. Unless Roland is releasing their own Juno-60. Suppose that’s a possibility. I’m still leaning towards Cherry.

[minkray]

must be two new synth from G-force they mentioned in their email. everyone talked about CS-80, and it's high probability, but the second must be Jupiter, I think.