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EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:41 pm

Well, I do have a friend who's an official gearslut (Clusterchord from GS forum) who owns a Jupiter 8, although his is not 14-bit one I don't think. I bet he'd have a thing or two to say about this all... I may ring him tomorrow.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:45 pm

Yeah and I slept at a Holiday Inn

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But yes please do call him, would be nice to hear his perspective.
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EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:48 pm

http://www.babic.com/tnt.php

Good friend of mine, bought my Microwave I from him.

And actually spent time in his studio playing his various synths too on a number of occasions. It's not healthy being his friend because it ramps up my GAS every time I visit...

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:51 pm

Nice list of gear. I note he has both a jupiter 8 and the sh-2
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EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:51 pm

Yep and also a Jupiter 6, OB-X, OB-Xa, PPG Wave 2, Waveterm, both rev2 and rev3 Prophet-5s (the list on the website is not updated in realtime)...

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:52 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:32 pm
himalaya wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:29 pmThis is where J-8 wins for me. It is possible to layer 4 VCO oscillators for some huge pads and poly synth sounds and still get enough poly voices to actually play the patch with some nice big chords (or simple chords and a lead)
Ha, sure, I guess. Could still do it with Arturia since it goes to 32 voices poly.

That's superb. But, as it happens the Arturia version has a few issues that would stop me from using it as a go-to Jupiter-8 emulation.

But I have to say, that the contrast on the JUP-8V is better than on J-8, TAL, are you listening?

(although the JUP-8V has the cardinal sin of GUI design: 3D knobs and switches set an an angle). And also, the extra modulation is so good to have. I think, vintage synth emulations should be designed like this, to offer a few more goodies should we want to push it beyond the original, 'emulated' sound.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:52 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:48 pm http://www.babic.com/tnt.php

Good friend of mine, bought my Microwave I from him. And actually spent time in his studio playing his various synths too on a number of occasions. It's not healthy being his friend because it ramps up my GAS every time I visit...

pokemon, transformers, iron man.

good enough for me!

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:14 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:34 pm True. But this is again between voices, not between oscillators... You can detune the hell out of separate voices, but you can still get to that point where you lock the phases between the two oscillators as simply as setting both oscs to same octave and setting finetune to 0 with a double click. How do I say it... it breaks suspension of disbelief for me.

I really do not understand what you are trying to achieve. Don't set the Fine Tune pot to zero in that case.

EvilDragon wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:34 pm Which is to say, I'd like to have a Drift knob in Calibration section that will never let me freeze the oscillators in phase this easily.

"This easily"? You have to purposefully set the Fine Tune to 'zero' in order to do it. Why would you want to set two VCO oscillators to absolutely no detune? Don't you know that the very first thing you do with a VCO-VCF synth after you turn it on is detune the oscillators? Dude? Where's your oscillator at? (A song by the Basement Jaxx).

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:22 pm

himalaya wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:14 pm Why would you want to set two VCO oscillators to absolutely no detune?

so they are both in tune, obviously

kmvegas · Post by **kmvegas** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:37 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:34 pm
Which is to say, I'd like to have a Drift knob in Calibration section that will never let me freeze the oscillators in phase this easily.

This seems like a great idea. I know of a few other synths that employ this, and I've always liked it. Those that are satisfied can leave it be and those that prefer a little more imperfection can turn it up. I vote for a Drift Knob as well!

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:42 pm

kmvegas wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:37 pm
EvilDragon wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:34 pm
Which is to say, I'd like to have a Drift knob in Calibration section that will never let me freeze the oscillators in phase this easily.
This seems like a great idea. I know of a few other synths that employ this, and I've always liked it. Those that are satisfied can leave it be and those that prefer a little more imperfection can turn it up. I vote for a Drift Knob as well!

Me too

I like options.

rsp

dermage · Post by **dermage** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:46 pm

Has anyone spoken to Patrick about that yet (eg. free running OSCs?)
I know that some synths have implemented that (like Repro).

Anyway, J-8 is great, bought it after trying for some minutes. TAL's filters are just awesome, warm and flexible. And I love the resonance on these.
Somehow I got a bit confused by the positioning of the ARP rate control and the LFO controls, but I'll get used to it I guess/hope.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:47 pm

Options are always good to have. All for it. I'd go further as now I want to modulate the Cross-Mod with an LFO or something!

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:47 pm

All this discusson about what constitutes an authentic Jupe is a total turnoff. Hope Patrick makes an informed statement and we can then put it to bed. Too much grandstanding here.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:49 pm

The bevavior we're seeing is across 2 VCO's on a single voice. So are we asking for a "VCO1 tuning" and "VCO2 tuning" per voice? So two additional trimmers in the SC panel across 8 voices?

Tal J-8