An LFO device and a Envelope Follower are listed as available for Intro and Standard on their website, but it seems like it's completely sketchy marketing as these devices actually require Max for Live without any mentioning of this in the comparison overview. The devices are simply listed together all the other built in devices. This seems really misleading when competing DAWs like Logic and Bitwig DO include LFO and modulation devices built in.
UPDATE: Apparently I was looking at the 11 comparison chart, where it will be included in intro and standard.
Ableton Live 10 Standard - Where is the LFO?
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- KVRAF
- 3017 posts since 8 Jun, 2018
if i see it right it will be included in live 11. (only for intro the LFO, by the way)fceramic wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:48 pm An LFO device and a Envelope Follower are listed as available for Intro and Standard on their website, but it seems like it's completely sketchy marketing as these devices actually require Max for Live without any mentioning of this in the comparison overview. The devices are simply listed together all the other built in devices. This seems really misleading when competing DAWs like Logic and Bitwig DO include LFO and modulation devices built in.
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 19 Oct, 2020
That's the list for 11. In 11 Suite the LFO is under 'Audio FX', not 'Max for Live' as it has been in 10. So maybe they will include it in 11 Standard and Intro - someone with a Standard Beta could tell.
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- KVRian
- 529 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Yeah I think an LFO is Suite-only for Live 10. Do not despair, though. 11 is right around the corner, and really, drawing automation curves and assigning them to (unlinked) clip parameters, can be a beautiful thing....at least in the meantime.
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 19 Oct, 2020
Yes, no LFO in 10 without M4L.
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Aren't most Live devices at least starting as M4L? I'm sure they can be 'compiled' (or rewritten) to be native and thus used in Intro and Standard. Honestly - LFO, Shaper & Env. Follower should've been 'compiled' when 10 was released, because they sucked a** as M4L devices - they were very slow to use, consumed lots of CPU, their GUIs glitched, etc.Reefius wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:09 pm I have no idea how it will work in Intro and Standard versions, because in the 11 Suite beta LFO and Envelope Follower are still M4L devices.