Online Acapella Extractors

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Are online acapella extractors legal to use? I just tried one out using a youtube buskers cover song to try it out and it was actually quite good, but I'm thinking surely there must be an issue with copyrighted material. I mean if you wanted to extract the vocal from a Stormzy track for example (not that I'm intending to do so it's not really my style of music) would this be o.k if it was for your own personal use. I mean if you want to do a mashup taking the instrumental from one track and mixing it with the vocal of another track. I'm sure this has been covered before somewhere but I don't seem to recall anyone coming up with a straight answer Yes or No. I don't like grey areas because sometimes they can end up turning into blackholes if you know what I mean?
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Henry Jimdrix wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:07 pm Are online acapella extractors legal to use?
They have the same legality as offline acapella extractors.

Processing stuff never is an issue, but publishing is! It boils down to this simply: you're using a recording which is not yours. Keep it confined to your room and you can do anything you please. Just don't publish it.

This is very black and white. Using a sample (also heavily processed) is never legal if you have not cleared it (that is: negotiated financial compensation with the original publisher)

Still the grey matter has to get explained. In the real world copyright infringements never have consequences. Unless money is involved.

1. The owner of the original material has to find out there was breaching in the first place. So people must know about it. (NB: youtube has bots that find this, so you cannot keep under the radar there. But their punishment is simply you get nothing from their advertorial revenues (but nothing minus nothing is still nothing))

2. The owner must sue you. They won't do that only because they have the right. It has to be worth it for them.
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Thanks Bertkoor, I will abandon my plans to use it further, it's too much of a grey area I think.
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There is no grey area. If what you sample and use in your own productions is copyrighted to someone else then you cannot publish it legally. Personal use is fine.

If you would ever be sued will depend how deep the pockets of the copyright owner are. The Verve, for example, were sued for 100% of the royalties on Bittersweet Symphony because they sampled a cover version of a Rolling Stones song.

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I'm talking about acapellas and not sampling parts of the instrumental part of a track.
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I don't know if any of them even work well

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Henry Jimdrix wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:15 am I'm talking about acapellas and not sampling parts of the instrumental part of a track.
There is no difference between using a sample, an instrumental part or a vocal piece. It's a recording with a copyright. Processing it in any way does not change that.
(Unless you process it to the extent you created a new derived work)
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Henry Jimdrix wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:15 am I'm talking about acapellas and not sampling parts of the instrumental part of a track.
Makes absolutely no difference if it's copyrighted ... personal use is legal but if you publish it's not.

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O'k well I guess that clears that.
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thecontrolcentre wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:21 pm There is no grey area. If what you sample and use in your own productions is copyrighted to someone else then you cannot publish it legally. Personal use is fine.

If you would ever be sued will depend how deep the pockets of the copyright owner are. The Verve, for example, were sued for 100% of the royalties on Bittersweet Symphony because they sampled a cover version of a Rolling Stones song.
actually the new stimulus package is attempting to change that

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/im ... us-package
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I've had decent results with this

https://www.acapella-extractor.com/

handy for doing remixes for fun

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Hink wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:44 pm
thecontrolcentre wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:21 pm There is no grey area. If what you sample and use in your own productions is copyrighted to someone else then you cannot publish it legally. Personal use is fine.

If you would ever be sued will depend how deep the pockets of the copyright owner are. The Verve, for example, were sued for 100% of the royalties on Bittersweet Symphony because they sampled a cover version of a Rolling Stones song.
actually the new stimulus package is attempting to change that

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/im ... us-package
interesting (if a little difficult to understand) ... cheers Hink.

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Hink wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:44 pm
thecontrolcentre wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:21 pm There is no grey area. If what you sample and use in your own productions is copyrighted to someone else then you cannot publish it legally. Personal use is fine.

If you would ever be sued will depend how deep the pockets of the copyright owner are. The Verve, for example, were sued for 100% of the royalties on Bittersweet Symphony because they sampled a cover version of a Rolling Stones song.
actually the new stimulus package is attempting to change that

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/im ... us-package
Think I'm gonna have to bookmark this thread, and watch out for further updated info on this potential new copyright legislation.
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AnX wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:47 pm I've had decent results with this

https://www.acapella-extractor.com/

handy for doing remixes for fun
That is what I used to extract a vocal from guitar, but I don't know how good it would have been if the vocal was accompanied by percussion and other instruments it might not have turned out so well. My AV actually blocked something when I downloaded the completed acapella. Did not take much notice what it was, i think it was probably a re-direction to a potentially malicious website. It might have even been a potential malicious file I'm not sure. Kaspersky Security Cloud free version is good at blocking things other free version AV's miss because of how it differs to other free version AV's so there is less chance of getting a virus.
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I used full tracks, it's not perfect, and obviously you need to edit etc, but its very usable

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