Cubase 11 available now

[antic604]

Is there a particular screen to take a screen shot of? The main window?

I have a 55" 4K OLED for a monitor and I sit a bit back from it so I scale at 200% so I can still read text and everything looks good to me.

Yeah, main window will be fine. Thanks

[monkeymanx]

Yeah, main window will be fine. Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzagnzdv3bom ... t.bmp?dl=0

That's a bitmap so that you are looking at what I'm looking at.

[antic604]

Yeah, main window will be fine. Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzagnzdv3bom ... t.bmp?dl=0

That's a bitmap so that you are looking at what I'm looking at.

Thanks! Indeed it looks much better than here at 125%. Apparently they've redrawn all the stuff for 200% that was the only Hi-DPI scaling supported in v10.x, whereas the 125%, 150% and 175% introduced with v11.0 is still using upscaled bitmaps for many elements

Pretty lame.

[EnGee]

Yeah, main window will be fine. Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehzagnzdv3bom ... t.bmp?dl=0

That's a bitmap so that you are looking at what I'm looking at.

It looks ok, but slightly blurry compared to what I see on my monitor.
It looks very clear when open it on another tab! Sorry!

For me It is not crystal clear for me, but it is fine I use 2k monitor 32" without scaling.

Anyway, I tried 125% scale, and still looks good for me. Here are my screenshot for 125% and 100%:

[antic604]

Anyway, I tried 125% scale, and still looks good for me. Here are my screenshot for 125% and 100%:

Well, I might be oversensitive but my eyes just can't fix focus on the 125% when looking at the tools or that blue thingy in Inspector. Whatever I do it's blurry.

[EnGee]

Anyway, I tried 125% scale, and still looks good for me. Here are my screenshot for 125% and 100%:

Well, I might be oversensitive but my eyes just can't fix focus on the 125% when looking at the tools or that blue thingy in Inspector. Whatever I do it's blurry.

Yes, you are right. The tools are not clear in 125% and 150%, but surprisingly very clear at 200%!

[antic604]

Other than the high-DPI fail, there's few more things that make Cubase "unusable" for me in its current state:

• modal keyboard shortcuts - don't get me wrong, lots of things can be set up but there's very few modal ones, so you can e.g. show automation and hide automatio, zoom to selection and zoom out but they have to be SEPARATE keys
• tool shortcuts - draw tool is 3rd on the list, but it's under key 7 or 8? very intuitive
• default modifiers - I think it's the only DAW where Ctrl momentarily disables snap when moving clips or notes? Everywhere else it's Shift, because one wants to ...shift things a bit; and surprisingly it's the only one that can't be changed
• automating VSTs - the fact you need to go & find your parameter for automation from huge drop-down list is a huge turn off; I know I can record a small bit and then use that, but that's not helpful
• using MIDI controllers to control VST parameters - good luck if the VST doesn't have MIDI learn (many don't, especially FX); I watched 10+ videos, read through the user manual and asked around and still have no clue how to map Massive X's macro knobs, which is 1-2 clicks in Live, Bitwig, Studio One or ...Reason
• VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2
• Sampler Track - can anyone explain to me what's the difference between this and a Sampler device in any other DAW? I don't really understand why I have to plan ahead to use a special type of track, when I want sampler?
• Updates - it's not really updated beyond the annual pay time x.5 / x.0 cycle, is it? At least since 9.5 it's been like that, I think? If you compare that to say Studio One that releases paid upgrade every 2 years but in the meantile gives at least 5 or 6 "free" substantial updates with genuinely new stuff & improvements, then it's hard to justify it owning Cubase

I mean it's a wonderful DAW, likely including 99% of the features one might want and probably few dozens more you had no idea you might want, but it's so damn inconsistent with old - and sometimes genuinely ancient - stuff poking through everywhere. Trying Cubase gives me new appreciation for Live or Reason, that both have been on the market for 20 years but feel much more consistent and coherent, most likely because they refused to add each & every possible feature that people wanted.

See you at v12, I guess

[mladi]

VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2

That are VST3 specifications & has nothing to do with a certain Sequencer:

Windows 64 Bit: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3
Windows 32 Bit: C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3
Mac OS X: Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST3

[antic604]

VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2

That are VST3 specifications & has nothing to do with a certain Sequencer:

Windows 64 Bit: C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3
Windows 32 Bit: C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VST3
Mac OS X: Library/Audio/Plug-ins/VST3

I know, but in every other DAW I tried - Live, Bitwig, Studio One, Reason, Reaper, Bandlab, FL - one can add a custom folders and VST3 that are there are found & used. Not in Cubase

[pixel85]

Other than the high-DPI fail, there's few more things that make Cubase "unusable" for me in its current state:

• modal keyboard shortcuts - don't get me wrong, lots of things can be set up but there's very few modal ones, so you can e.g. show automation and hide automatio, zoom to selection and zoom out but they have to be SEPARATE keys
• tool shortcuts - draw tool is 3rd on the list, but it's under key 7 or 8? very intuitive
• default modifiers - I think it's the only DAW where Ctrl momentarily disables snap when moving clips or notes? Everywhere else it's Shift, because one wants to ...shift things a bit; and surprisingly it's the only one that can't be changed
• automating VSTs - the fact you need to go & find your parameter for automation from huge drop-down list is a huge turn off; I know I can record a small bit and then use that, but that's not helpful
• using MIDI controllers to control VST parameters - good luck if the VST doesn't have MIDI learn (many don't, especially FX); I watched 10+ videos, read through the user manual and asked around and still have no clue how to map Massive X's macro knobs, which is 1-2 clicks in Live, Bitwig, Studio One or ...Reason
• VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2
• Sampler Track - can anyone explain to me what's the difference between this and a Sampler device in any other DAW? I don't really understand why I have to plan ahead to use a special type of track, when I want sampler?
• Updates - it's not really updated beyond the annual pay time x.5 / x.0 cycle, is it? At least since 9.5 it's been like that, I think? If you compare that to say Studio One that releases paid upgrade every 2 years but in the meantile gives at least 5 or 6 "free" substantial updates with genuinely new stuff & improvements, then it's hard to justify it owning Cubase

I mean it's a wonderful DAW, likely including 99% of the features one might want and probably few dozens more you had no idea you might want, but it's so damn inconsistent with old - and sometimes genuinely ancient - stuff poking through everywhere. Trying Cubase gives me new appreciation for Live or Reason, that both have been on the market for 20 years but feel much more consistent and coherent, most likely because they refused to add each & every possible feature that people wanted.

See you at v12, I guess

Short version: sell Cubase, you wasted your money. Don't wait for v12 because you will be disappointed again.

Long version:

By buying Cubase you have paid for functionalities like classic multitrack recording with classic mixer approach, you paid for (lacking) features for multimedia sound designers and composers, you paid for VR production capabilities... Will, you ever use any of that?

Believe me, Cubase 12 will not change much (especially by looking at how the latest versions brought not much to the table), you'll just waste your money again. Most of the issues you mentioned are in Cubase for more than a decade and nothing was done to improve that. Forget about any improvements in that matter in v12, v13, or v14, etc.
Damn, even FruityLoops 3, around 15 years ago, had a better plugin automation system than Cubase today.

Seriously I'm using Cubase for long years and I love it but I can't recommend it to music makers (especially electronic music). Cubase is great but for music makers, 'beatmakers', etc. there are better alternatives.

Also:
Honestly, I can give you one solution: instead of buying every single DAW on the market, use one that you like, stick to it, and start making music. I can bet that you didn't finish more than 1 track in years

[antic604]

Honestly, I can give you one solution: instead of buying every single DAW on the market, use one that you like, stick to it, and start making music. I can bet that you didn't finish more than 1 track in years

Why you bother yourself with how I spend my time & money?

Cubase Pro 11 was a cheap upgrade from Elements that I got with my audio interface, so I thought why the hell not? Now I know - hell no!

But it's true - considering it's the end of 2020 and I came back to music "making" in early 2017 I only finished 2 tracks in that time, although nearly finished probably 10x as many. I just enjoy trying & learning new DAWs more than finishing music, I guess.

[ReleaseCandidate]

VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2

That are VST3 specifications & has nothing to do with a certain Sequencer:

Well, because the specs are from Steinberg, Cubase is the only DAW that I know of in which you can't change them.

[fmr]

VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2

That are VST3 specifications & has nothing to do with a certain Sequencer:

Well, because the specs are from Steinberg, Cubase is the only DAW that I know of in which you can't change them.

No, not really. VST3 spec has a mandatory place for the plug-ins to be installed (contrary to what happened with VST2). If you install them in other places (most of the installers don't even allow to), you are asking for trouble.

[ReleaseCandidate]

VST3 handling - for some reason one can't change the path for where VST3 are installed (it expects the default C/Program Files/Common/VST3 on PC) so in my case where I keep all VST formats in one custom folder tree I only had access to VST2

That are VST3 specifications & has nothing to do with a certain Sequencer:

Well, because the specs are from Steinberg, Cubase is the only DAW that I know of in which you can't change them.

No, not really. VST3 spec has a mandatory place for the plug-ins to be installed (contrary to what happened with VST2).

Yes, I know. But because the VST3 specs are from Steinberg, their DAWs are the only ones that I know of that do not allow for other directories to search for VST3 too. Yes, I firmly believe that Cubase would have additional search paths if the VST3 definitions were made by e.g. Ableton.

[pixel85]

Why you bother yourself with how I spend my time & money?

It's Christmas time, we should care about each other
But yeah, I shouldn't care about anything but myself. It's not safe especially on music production forums full of GAS victims