I haven't made music in maybe 15 years. I used to be a heavy Cubase, EnergyXT and Zynewave Podium user, but on Windows back then. Today I'm using a mac. Looking at the options today confuses me
Want to make music again. What (mac) host should I go for these days?
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- KVRAF
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
Hi!
I haven't made music in maybe 15 years. I used to be a heavy Cubase, EnergyXT and Zynewave Podium user, but on Windows back then. Today I'm using a mac. Looking at the options today confuses me
Is there anything I should take an extra look at?
I haven't made music in maybe 15 years. I used to be a heavy Cubase, EnergyXT and Zynewave Podium user, but on Windows back then. Today I'm using a mac. Looking at the options today confuses me
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
What's wrong with the Mac you're using now?stefancrs wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:22 pm Hi!
I haven't made music in maybe 15 years. I used to be a heavy Cubase, EnergyXT and Zynewave Podium user, but on Windows back then. Today I'm using a mac. Looking at the options today confuses meIs there anything I should take an extra look at?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
I mean what VST Host / Sequencer / DAW software should I go for? My Mac is brand new so that one's staying 
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Garageband or Logic, dunno, you will feel right at home if you are comfortable with Cubase.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
I was, back then, though I remember being hindered by the lack of modularity... Studio One looks interesting.
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
I remember Logic being quite hard to learn, but that was 15 years ago 
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Ohstefancrs wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:28 pm I mean what VST Host / Sequencer / DAW software should I go for? My Mac is brand new so that one's staying![]()
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Checkout Bitwig than, it's relatively new player on the market, but it's so on point and fun, modularity is his forte.stefancrs wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:33 pm I was, back then, though I remember being hindered by the lack of modularity... Studio One looks interesting.
Your fellow Swede
Yeah, Studio One is awesome indeed, but it's not getting along with macOS unfortunately.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
How is it not getting along with macOS? Will have a look at Bitwig!Passing Bye wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:42 pmCheckout Bitwig than, it's relatively new player on the market, but it's so on point and fun, modularity is his forte.stefancrs wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:33 pm I was, back then, though I remember being hindered by the lack of modularity... Studio One looks interesting.
Your fellow Swede![]()
Yeah, Studio One is awesome indeed, but it's not getting along with macOS unfortunately.![]()
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
- KVRAF
- 26972 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
The general scuttlebutt is that Studio One is not as solid and efficient on the Mac.stefancrs wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:57 pmow is it not getting along with macOS? Will have a look at Bitwig!
I use Bitwig and Logic.
Logic is a no brainer purchase. It is the best DAW value one can find. An amazing amount of quality devices, both synths and FX. Logic is feature packed and year after year it receives impressive updates for free. You can easily use nothing but Logic to produce great quality music.
Bitwig is a fun and fresh modular DAW.
- KVRAF
- 12213 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
You’re going to see every Mac-compatible DAW recommended to you in this thread, so here’s my advice, from someone who was previously a PC user, then used both for 10 years, now uses just Mac. I would start with what you already have and/or know.
You have GarageBand already and it’s essentially “Logic Lite”, so give that a try and if you want/need more, go with Logic. Depending on your needs, GarageBand may be plenty for you. If not, Logic is arguably the best bang-for-buck in the DAW arena.
If you still have a valid Cubase license, then demo the latest version of Cubase and, if you prefer that over GB/Logic, then upgrade to the newest version. Again, consider all the options. The lite versions of Cubase are pretty packed with features and may be a big improvement over your current version, so check the comparison guides.
If one of those options don’t work for you, then consider every other DAW the sun. My 2 cents.
You have GarageBand already and it’s essentially “Logic Lite”, so give that a try and if you want/need more, go with Logic. Depending on your needs, GarageBand may be plenty for you. If not, Logic is arguably the best bang-for-buck in the DAW arena.
If you still have a valid Cubase license, then demo the latest version of Cubase and, if you prefer that over GB/Logic, then upgrade to the newest version. Again, consider all the options. The lite versions of Cubase are pretty packed with features and may be a big improvement over your current version, so check the comparison guides.
If one of those options don’t work for you, then consider every other DAW the sun. My 2 cents.
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Slim Phatty | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
I would set my weights https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html and skip Reaper in the first round
...except if u like it at first sight
but because you used Cubase before I would start with the trial of that one, https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/trial/
before anything else
...except if u like it at first sight
but because you used Cubase before I would start with the trial of that one, https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/trial/
before anything else
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- KVRian
- 620 posts since 19 Oct, 2020
All DAWs except Cakewalk and Samplitude/Sequoia. FL already has an OSX version, right?
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
^^^ have you seen the Protoculture vs FL Studio video, one the funniest ones of this year https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/to ... autoplay=1
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
I haven't used Cubase since SX2, and haven't kept a license (or anything else). I can probably dig up some old VST licenses in my email archives
. I think I'll start with testing s1 and logic. Thanks for all the excellent tips!
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/