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I don't know, for me, the sound of Dune 3 (includes the lush effects) weigh more than my negative feelings about the workflow and the presets browser.

The workflow is not that bad, but it is not that good. Anyway, when you work a lot with it, you won't have such a problem.

For the presets browser, it is functional. Not pretty or anything. Personally, I don't have such big problem, because it is just "Save as.." then "New Folder" and I can store my presets. It is accessible immediately from the banks.

I think the discount is already finished, but I could get my upgrade license :) I like Dune 3 more than Hive 2. It would be a perfect mate for Massive X, which are the highest wavetable synths IMO ;)
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Hi guys. Did you mention that it is challenging to get a clear sound from Dune 3? It is always somehow wide, blurred and chaotic. It's a wonderful thing for atmospheric sounds and pads, but how do you deal with this beast when you want a clean arpeggiated sound, for example?

Looks like setting up global detune and phase lock does not change the nature of the oscillators to the "pure" side.

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wide, blurred and chaotic?

too many mods and fx?

piece of cake to make a very clean simple sound, same as any other synth.... start from init....

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I delved into the plugin more tonight and it sounds way better than pigments for the more analogish sounds I'm into. It sounds better than vital or Serum or massive too so far.

Can't tell if I'll like it more than massive x. I actually think massive x sounds pretty good for my purposes even though many seem to hate it for some reason.

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we're talking about dune 3, yes? i don't get why ppl always feel they need to compare things; i have, for example, D3 and vital, and they are SO different. i use them both, would not swap one for the other. massive x similarly doesn't seem to compete sonically with either one... and doesn't need to.

i use the plugins i choose to buy for what they offer, and don't expect, say, a realistic piano from a synth plugin, any more than i'd use pianoteq for a synth pad...
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Ironically, the biggest criticisms I have seen about Massive X, is not the sound, but some object that it requires an AVX-Compatible cpu, but most of the complaints I have seen about it is ironically what some of us would call the unfinished browser.

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briefcasemanx wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:39 pmI delved into the plugin more tonight and it sounds way better than pigments for the more analogish sounds I'm into. It sounds better than vital or Serum or massive too so far.
I was demoing Dune3 with the mindset "I have several highly regarded synths that cover more or less the same functions, do I really need it?". But there is just something about the sound. I think from the filters and envelopes to the fx, all the modules just really work so well together. For Dune3 the whole is certainly greater than the sum of its part. But I still like using the other synths as well.

Additionally Dune3 is really good on CPU, also valuable.
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zvenx wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:57 am
fisherKing wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:50 am
BONES wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:02 am No, preset management in DUNE is stuck in the 1990s, I'm afraid. It's a big part of the reason I almost never use it.
you mean... the sound isn't so important, it's the preset management that matters most..? :o
I am with Bones here.
They are other as good and better sounding synths whose workflow (which definitely includes preset management for me) suits me better.
They get used.
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A better sounding synth than Dune 3? No way!
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AnX wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:02 pm wide, blurred and chaotic?

too many mods and fx?

piece of cake to make a very clean simple sound, same as any other synth.... start from init....
Dune 3 "clean sound" sounds not clean, that what I'm talking about. Like I said, to me, Dune 3 has that "blurred", "detuned" character. I'm trying to figure out is it an oscillator's design or there are some knobs or buttons that produce that effect.

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Dombaeb wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:05 pm Hi guys. Did you mention that it is challenging to get a clear sound from Dune 3? It is always somehow wide, blurred and chaotic. It's a wonderful thing for atmospheric sounds and pads, but how do you deal with this beast when you want a clean arpeggiated sound, for example?

Looks like setting up global detune and phase lock does not change the nature of the oscillators to the "pure" side.
Maybe because Dune is on the analogue sounding side. When you say clear sounding, do you mean synths like Serum?
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Dombaeb wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:43 pm
AnX wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:02 pm wide, blurred and chaotic?

too many mods and fx?

piece of cake to make a very clean simple sound, same as any other synth.... start from init....
Dune 3 "clean sound" sounds not clean, that what I'm talking about. Like I said, to me, Dune 3 has that "blurred", "detuned" character. I'm trying to figure out is it an oscillator's design or there are some knobs or buttons that produce that effect.
What are your references for that "clean" sound?

Also do you mean your own patches or factory presets (these are indeed dreched in various effects way too much)?
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Dombaeb wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:43 pm
AnX wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:02 pm wide, blurred and chaotic?

too many mods and fx?

piece of cake to make a very clean simple sound, same as any other synth.... start from init....
Dune 3 "clean sound" sounds not clean, that what I'm talking about. Like I said, to me, Dune 3 has that "blurred", "detuned" character. I'm trying to figure out is it an oscillator's design or there are some knobs or buttons that produce that effect.

upload a preset, then upload a clean ref sound....

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Dombaeb wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:43 pm Dune 3 "clean sound" sounds not clean, that what I'm talking about. Like I said, to me, Dune 3 has that "blurred", "detuned" character. I'm trying to figure out is it an oscillator's design or there are some knobs or buttons that produce that effect.
then use it for what it excels at? and use another plugin for the 'clean' sound you want.

don't we want our synths to have character? if they all sounded the same, what would be the point?
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I'm not expecting Serum cleanliness, of course, but looks you're right - it's analog-sounding dark resonating oscillators. I tried all the buttons, all the knobs, and all the envelope states - this character remains the same :)
v1o wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:45 pm
Dombaeb wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:05 pm Hi guys. Did you mention that it is challenging to get a clear sound from Dune 3? It is always somehow wide, blurred and chaotic. It's a wonderful thing for atmospheric sounds and pads, but how do you deal with this beast when you want a clean arpeggiated sound, for example?

Looks like setting up global detune and phase lock does not change the nature of the oscillators to the "pure" side.
Maybe because Dune is on the analogue sounding side. When you say clear sounding, do you mean synths like Serum?

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I am figuring out some things about the instrument. I can use any other instrument. Moreover, I can use a special synth for sawtooth waves and another one for pink noise sounds :hihi:
fisherKing wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:48 pm
Dombaeb wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:43 pm Dune 3 "clean sound" sounds not clean, that what I'm talking about. Like I said, to me, Dune 3 has that "blurred", "detuned" character. I'm trying to figure out is it an oscillator's design or there are some knobs or buttons that produce that effect.
then use it for what it excels at? and use another plugin for the 'clean' sound you want.

don't we want our synths to have character? if they all sounded the same, what would be the point?

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