Greetings.
The title says it all.
For those wondering how this would be useful to me, the answer is quite simple. I'm in love with the FL Studio piano roll because it allows so many advanced MIDI editing functions that are not available in other DAWs (e.g. strumming, quantizing using special grids, advanced chopping, instant chord stamping, advanced arp functions, etc.). Reason, on the other hand, has a MIDI piano roll similar to that in Ableton Live, that is to say, very poor, in my opinion. It has become extremely time-consuming to fix my MIDI in Reason as I would have done it in a few seconds using FL Studio.
Now, I have Jack Audio installed on my PC and have been using it for quite a while now as an audio router. I know that it is also possible to rout MIDI using Jack Audio, though. Maybe this might enlighten some? Or is it as simple as using FL Studio in plugin mode inside Reason (something with which I am not extremely familiar, though I have fooled around with it a bit)?
Many thanks in advance.
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Domenico
Routing MIDI from FL Studio 20 Demo to Reason 10 Lite
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 2 Jan, 2021
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
You need to rewire Reason to FL, but that's all I know about it as I never did it
https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio-le ... reason.htm
Or upgrade Reason to v11 and use Reason Rack Plugin inside of FL.
You can run FL in Reason as a VST, but Reason won't accept MIDI from it. It doesn't support MIDI FX VST.
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
as I see the Intro is the cheapest solution, https://www.reasonstudios.com/en/reason/comparison https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... n-11-Intro €83.62
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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ReleaseCandidate ReleaseCandidate https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=476930
- KVRian
- 620 posts since 19 Oct, 2020
Easiest way (without using Reason as VST) is to use a virtual MIDI port like
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
And route the audio back to FL using Jack.
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
And route the audio back to FL using Jack.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 51 posts since 2 Jan, 2021
Hello. Thank you for all your responses.
I should have mentioned that I don't want to use reason as a VST because I'm trying to find a non-paying workaround and I have the Lite version of Reason (it doesn't include the VST version). Additionally, I have the demo version of FL Studio, which is why I'm not using it as a DAW, given the fact that I can't reopen the files that I've saved to work on them again later.
What I'm looking to do is edit my MIDI in FL, routing that MIDI to Reason and, when I'm satisfied with the result, recording the MIDI into reason.
In other words, routing FL's MIDI to Reason is my only option, given antic604's response regarding the fact that Reason won't take MIDI from a plugin such as FL Studio's plugin version.
Which is why ReleaseCandidate brings forward something interesting by proposing to use a virtual MIDI port. In fact, I'd like to know if I can do just that using Jack Audio's MIDI function. Does anyone have experience with this? If not, I can surely alternatively use the MIDI port proposed by ReleaseCandidate.
Thanks so much, guys.
I should have mentioned that I don't want to use reason as a VST because I'm trying to find a non-paying workaround and I have the Lite version of Reason (it doesn't include the VST version). Additionally, I have the demo version of FL Studio, which is why I'm not using it as a DAW, given the fact that I can't reopen the files that I've saved to work on them again later.
What I'm looking to do is edit my MIDI in FL, routing that MIDI to Reason and, when I'm satisfied with the result, recording the MIDI into reason.
In other words, routing FL's MIDI to Reason is my only option, given antic604's response regarding the fact that Reason won't take MIDI from a plugin such as FL Studio's plugin version.
Which is why ReleaseCandidate brings forward something interesting by proposing to use a virtual MIDI port. In fact, I'd like to know if I can do just that using Jack Audio's MIDI function. Does anyone have experience with this? If not, I can surely alternatively use the MIDI port proposed by ReleaseCandidate.
Thanks so much, guys.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 51 posts since 2 Jan, 2021
I finally managed to activate MIDI within Jack Audio. For those interested, the "-X winmme" line needed to be entered in both QjackCtl and the shortcut target line. I don't know why.
So, as you can see directly above, MIDI is now available within the Jack Audio connections interface.
The "System MIDI" tab shows regardless of whether Reason Lite 10 is open or not.
Now I also have Reason open here and the audio is correctly routed, that is, as I wish it to be, for instance.
Question time: How do I access this MIDI within reason? I've tried the "Advanced MIDI" tab in the "Hardware Interface" in Reason's rack, but I can't see a virtual input or output anywhere.
The "System MIDI" tab shows regardless of whether Reason Lite 10 is open or not.
Now I also have Reason open here and the audio is correctly routed, that is, as I wish it to be, for instance.
Question time: How do I access this MIDI within reason? I've tried the "Advanced MIDI" tab in the "Hardware Interface" in Reason's rack, but I can't see a virtual input or output anywhere.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 51 posts since 2 Jan, 2021
I just figured it out... Partly.
Jack does not provide virtual MIDI ports. It doesn't provide an audio driver either, by the way. Jack Audio is exclusively meant to connect ports that already exist and are configured to suit the Jack requirements.
So I used the virtual MIDI port generator initially suggested to me by ReleaseCandidate, which works just fine and is detected by Jack.
All I had to do was switch from the Portaudio API to ALSA, because... I don't know, LOL. It looks like only ALSA supports MIDI(?)
Anyhow, I successfully routed FL's MIDI to Reason.
I just have another problem, now. I'd like both Reason and FL to be synchronised in order for my MIDI recordings to be easier to do.
I've tried ReWired, but I'm having difficulty working it out. Supposedly, I should be able to include a ReWired channel in FL Studio and set its output to Reason. But it doesn't detect Reason. I only have "FL Studio" and "Ableton Live". Yet Reason is correctly installed and registered.
Anyhow, I think it should be possible to send timecode via a virtual MIDI cable in order to sync Reason with FL... Anyone know about this?
Cheers.
Jack does not provide virtual MIDI ports. It doesn't provide an audio driver either, by the way. Jack Audio is exclusively meant to connect ports that already exist and are configured to suit the Jack requirements.
So I used the virtual MIDI port generator initially suggested to me by ReleaseCandidate, which works just fine and is detected by Jack.
All I had to do was switch from the Portaudio API to ALSA, because... I don't know, LOL. It looks like only ALSA supports MIDI(?)
Anyhow, I successfully routed FL's MIDI to Reason.
I just have another problem, now. I'd like both Reason and FL to be synchronised in order for my MIDI recordings to be easier to do.
I've tried ReWired, but I'm having difficulty working it out. Supposedly, I should be able to include a ReWired channel in FL Studio and set its output to Reason. But it doesn't detect Reason. I only have "FL Studio" and "Ableton Live". Yet Reason is correctly installed and registered.
Anyhow, I think it should be possible to send timecode via a virtual MIDI cable in order to sync Reason with FL... Anyone know about this?
Cheers.