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v1o wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 pmLol at Venus Theory over Dan Worrel! You just made my day. The VT dude is a very young man honestly and doesn't have the vast knowledge and experience that Dan has.
VT is a great guy, don't dismiss him outright. He brings a different set of experiences to the table. ;) Sure he's not Dan, but Dan is also not VT :)

For sure VT has THE voice for dialogue recording, even if you want to dismiss his, shall we say, lack of experience (though he does have lots of actual hours spent behind a vintage mixing desk, FYI).

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EvilDragon wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:42 pm
v1o wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 pmLol at Venus Theory over Dan Worrel! You just made my day. The VT dude is a very young man honestly and doesn't have the vast knowledge and experience that Dan has.
VT is a great guy, don't dismiss him outright. He brings a different set of experiences to the table. ;) Sure he's not Dan, but Dan is also not VT :)

For sure VT has THE voice for dialogue recording, even if you want to dismiss his, shall we say, lack of experience (though he does have lots of actual hours spent behind a vintage mixing desk, FYI).
...totally agree ! - nicely said !
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that guy does my head in. dan is the man.
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Either way, I for one am happy with the new short format of tutorials as Urs showed us earlier today.
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+1 for the new video format. Like many others here I prefer them short and sweet.
Always Read the Manual!

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At the risk of extending a significant diversion, I don't understand how anyone can find DW's style boring; he usually has me on the edge of my seat. Anyway, there is room for a range of styles. I think we can all agree that there are too many 30 min walkthroughs on youtube titled "this plugin is amazing" that bring nothing beyond a trivial feature tour and "this sounds so fat".

I have been doing the mini-tutorials of Zebra 2 while demoing it this week and they are a great format for what they bring.

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What’s beyond me is why would anyone need a YT video to guide them through a plugin ,what’s wrong with reading a pdf and exploring it yourself ?
Have people become so lazy ?
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:51 am What’s beyond me is why would anyone need a YT video to guide them through a plugin ,what’s wrong with reading a pdf and exploring it yourself ?
Have people become so lazy ?
I prefer to have both (videos and written instructions, assignments, etc.) and to use different media for learning. Nothing is wrong with videos from time to time ...

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:51 am What’s beyond me is why would anyone need a YT video to guide them through a plugin ,what’s wrong with reading a pdf and exploring it yourself ?
Have people become so lazy ?
some manuals are crap
not everyone understands the terminology

videos are very useful for some ppl

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Exactly, what's 'lazy' about watching a cool vid and learning something new? You still apply it later, just different from reading and you get to hear what's going on. Makes perfect sense for audio.
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:51 am What’s beyond me is why would anyone need a YT video to guide them through a plugin ,what’s wrong with reading a pdf and exploring it yourself ?
Have people become so lazy ?
i don't consider myself lazy, and read the manuals, and explore myself, 80/90%. but YT vid's help me, to get a deeper understanding, if they are good. not all go in depth. so i choose.
in way it is look over the shoulder of somebody else.

in the domain where i am a master (...)(not music), even then, looking over one's shoulder or better my shoulder works for me. see it as corporation.

as i am standalone in the ITB world, i know no-one directly, physically...

o not really true, i know someone that also has a studio, neighbour/good friend, he has a different approach, but we learn from eachother.

no work of art is created on a island.. you incorporate the technology, the use of techniques from others. an artist, even a hermit, depends on others.

i have a load of questions about synthesis. fortunately i can talk about it with some developers. and search around, but they are mostly, or almost always text. which works.

owning myself Zebra2 (+ZebraHZ, for the extras, not the presets), i do RTFM, and explore myself, but inspiration from others? that is what i also need, the best thing is inspiring eachother, YT is more one way. but it works, sometimes.

you know your stuff, that i know, but did you in the dawn of music not first copy? use building blocks already developed. to learn them?

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What I strongly dislike about videos is that you won't easily find the thing you are looking for, whilst in a manual, you can search for keywords. That, and the very mixed quality of tutorial videos. Some don't mention or cover the important things at all. I'm all for manuals, but, I realize that I'm a minority in that regard, nowadays.

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:51 am What’s beyond me is why would anyone need a YT video to guide them through a plugin ,what’s wrong with reading a pdf and exploring it yourself ?
Have people become so lazy ?
Well, it's not the nicest way of putting it but mostly I agree.

Some things that Youtubers and bloggers can bring to the table that are not typically found in product manuals and commercial reviews (with Zebra-relevant examples as this is a Zebra thread):
  • Candid comparison with alternative tools (e.g. how do the filters sound compared to Synthmaster or Massive X?)
  • Insights related to a more narrow production interest (e.g. psytrance phase manipulation, drum mixing with Zebrify, creating chaotic drones)
  • Non-obvious limitations and workarounds (e.g. which feedback FM algorithms are not possible, and does it matter?)
  • Deep-dive into applications of the more novel/obscure features (U-he do some of this actually)
  • Synergy with third-party tools (e.g. wavetable editors, midi performance instruments)
I have watched quite a few shallow, pointless plugin run-throughs in the hope of finding some of the above tucked in :(

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Dirtgrain wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:01 pm Please, more videos with Germans saying, "parameter." It makes my day every time.
OK say Weißwürschtl :|

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I agree if we would be talking about hardware synths , since there is no easy way to try out , but we're talking a plugin...the demo version is exactly for that ...get acquinted with it and see if it suits you .
The only thing cryptic about zebra are some of the osc effects , but these are all explained in the manual ( who would have thought that scrambler is feedback phase modulation , and scatter is squared feedback modulation , altough it's obvious when looking at an osciloscope ) , for the rest the nomenclature is 99% the same for all synths .
I think people want results fast , which is why they rely so much on these ' how to ' videos ,
instead of actually learing synthesis in general .
For me the most valuable resources are dedicated forums , reakor forum being one of them , no you tube video comes close ( even if it's hosted by dan worral :wink: )
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