First hardware synth: Behringer edition

[BONES]

How do you figure that? Id' suggest that having presets you can dissect is a much better way to learn synth programming. If anything, not being able to recall patches stymies learning because when you create a really nice sound, you'll be reluctant to move on until you've found a good use for it. I remember I once kept the same settings on my Mono/Poly for three months because I didn't want to lose the patch I had.

[vurt]

well, i was thinking, having to program each sound, and doing it repeatedly, you would become more familiar with the controls/functions.

yes, you can do this with recall, but we don't, we are lazy, so we don't reproduce sounds, we open a preset.

the guy has just bought his first hardware
it's a great synth, he will enjoy it and i wanted to try and be a bit more positive

[chk071]

no recall on a reasonably simple synth, is actually a good way to learn synth programming. and isn't lazy.

Problem I'd have with that is my bad memory... probably would have to make photos then.

I shudder over the thought...

[vurt]

no recall on a reasonably simple synth, is actually a good way to learn synth programming. and isn't lazy.

Problem I'd have with that is my bad memory... probably would have to make photos then.

I shudder over the thought...

i get that some prefer/will only use synths with recall. no issue with that choice
but i personally don't mind either depending on the sound. that's my only criteria, can i get awesome (imo) sounds from this?

(all phones have a camera now not like the old days where each patch cost about a quid! (based on the cost of a polaroid cartridge)

[Jkist]

Yeah I'm not worried about presets at all. This is for fun experimentation. If I find some sound I REAAAALLLYY like, I'll just snap a photo of the knobs on my phone. Simple.

[chk071]

no recall on a reasonably simple synth, is actually a good way to learn synth programming. and isn't lazy.

Problem I'd have with that is my bad memory... probably would have to make photos then.

I shudder over the thought...

i get that some prefer/will only use synths with recall. no issue with that choice
but i personally don't mind either depending on the sound. that's my only criteria, can i get awesome (imo) sounds from this?

(all phones have a camera now not like the old days where each patch cost about a quid! (based on the cost of a polaroid cartridge)

You know... I probably wouldn't mind the lack of patch recall on a synth like Behringer's Model D either, the synth is easy enough, and the original didn't have it too. For anything more complicated, I think I've grown too accustomed to those comforts though, I guess.

[vurt]

Yeah I'm not worried about presets at all. This is for fun experimentation. If I find some sound I REAAAALLLYY like, I'll just snap a photo of the knobs on my phone. Simple.

im sure you will have a blast!

[chk071]

I just imagined a whole soundbank... consisting of 128 photos.

[Jkist]

I just imagined a whole soundbank... consisting of 128 photos.

Lmao yeah, I'm gonna print 'em on my wall using one of those old instant cameras, and put little paper labels under them, purposefully over-exposing them just slightly, it'll be an entire vibe. Call it modern retro-art.

[telecode]

FWIW.. I really like modular and buclas. Not all synths have to have presets that you dial up when you want that sound. If you think of it as a one time performance of an instrument you are familiar with. You capture a performance once and it does not really ever get performance again the same way. There was a synth artist that did an entire release last year with that. She just left the machines take over and do their thing in conjunction with the instructions she gave them. I forgot the name now. I can look it up. it was a cool release.

[lfm]

I remember I once kept the same settings on my Mono/Poly for three months because I didn't want to lose the patch I had.

Yes, it can be delicate the very spot on knobs where it glows.

Controls like
- vcf attack
- vcf decay
- vca attack
- vca decay
- envelope amount on vcf and pitch env too if any
- filter cutoff
- filter resonance
are the ones I move back and forth probably 50 times each, just tiny bits, to find the spot on each for a preset. If having velocity amount that matters too.

They are so intimately related these controls, just "breath" on one and it matters. The attack/decay on filter and amp is very delicate in how they interact(but the rest mentioned too).

And that is why DeepMind lack some in not having separate controls for the envelopes, it become cumbersome to go back and forth like that. Nordlead and Prologue are my gotos, and just ordered a Polybrute too.

And if you have large amount of memory locations you can frequently do intermediate saves too, and you come back to and go in another direction. If having 200 or more I probably save 20-30 an hour. And are discarded over time later.

This exploring thing of every corner that synth can go is the core fun of it.

[BONES]

Maybe for you but I can't think of anything less fun. The only presets I save are the ones used in a song and the only time I do any patching is to find a sound for a song. I have much better things to do with my time than sit and play with a synth, just to see what might happen.

[uOpt]

The thing is cheap enough. Just epoxy the knobs when something sounds good and get another one

[lfm]

The thing is cheap enough. Just epoxy the knobs when something sounds good and get another one

Yes, that is hardware presets for you.
- next synth please

[zerocrossing]

I would have gone with Roland Se02 since it has patch memory and sequencer.

That’s how I would go, but I’m a big Studio Electronics guy and I really dig the sound of their synths and the extra functionality they put in, but the Behringers do sound really nice as well.