vst guitar vs real thing

[vunn]

so im learning how to produce on a couple
of songs i can play the keyboard a bit have a basic understanding of theroy
and i can strum an acoustic
i want some guitar strumming chugging etc and i also like the shoegazey chorusey washed out guitar sound and clean 80s sound.

now the question should i get a vst to do this do you think ? like ujam or reason a list guitarist ( reason user)
or should i pull out the cheap guitar i bought a week ago i mean im 41 how long will it take before i can record some chugging or chords in my music like i said i can strum open chords on an acoustic
whats your advice time is against me
because i still have dreams...

[vurt]

dreams.

depends what the dreams are.
personally if the dream is to have people who you don't know, who love for example shoe gaze, to listen to your music and want to listen again...
hire someone who can do it.

if your dream is to learn...
then just try it all, see which works.

how important is authentic sounding guitar to the dream?

im no maestro on guitar or synth, my only goal/dream is to have fun. so i do.
and im happy.
others are more focused on the outcome, and they are happy.

if you know your chords, chugging on 5ths should be no issue really, look on pootube for some palm muting tutorials

[cryophonik]

Why not both? Layer the software version with your strumming to get a more organic sound.

[vunn]

dreams.

depends what the dreams are.
personally if the dream is to have people who you don't know, who love for example shoe gaze, to listen to your music and want to listen again...
hire someone who can do it.

if your dream is to learn...
then just try it all, see which works.

how important is authentic sounding guitar to the dream?

im no maestro on guitar or synth, my only goal/dream is to have fun. so i do.
and im happy.
others are more focused on the outcome, and they are happy.

if you know your chords, chugging on 5ths should be no issue really, look on pootube for some palm muting tutorials

ive always been a singer recorded a few acoustic things
but getting my head around the production thing a bit more

pop is my thing but i guess more indie pop so guitars aint everything
im really thinking about getting better at guitar or piano like go full throttle into it not virtuoso like rhythm guitar or a slow competent pianist
or just use it all fake and produce it
im thinking what way to go
as my plan is to go sing it all when its done which will be later this year hopefully

[CapnLockheed]

If your goal is to take the easy way out.....than just relax and do it all in the box.
Plenty of hip-hop and edm is made by kiddies on i-phones that think they're now producers.
And surprisingly enough, some of them actually get other people that don't know or care about quality music made by musicians to not only listen to it but buy it as well. Kanye comes to mind. Whatever makes you happy. Just don't expect respect from actual musicians.

There's a saying amongst computer coders.......G.I.G.O.....garbage in garbage out.

[thecontrolcentre]

should i pull out the cheap guitar i bought a week ago

What else were you planning do with it?

i mean im 41 how long will it take before i can record some chugging or chords in my music like i said i can strum open chords on an acoustic

Takes most people around 1000 hours practise to become competent ...

whats your advice time is against me
because i still have dreams...

The time is now ... time to start practising

or use samples

[Googly Smythe]

If you need to ask this question you should probably stick with a vsti. I use 'em, and I've been playing guitar since I was 14.

[donkey tugger]

Takes most people around 1000 hours practise to become competent ...

Still much music to be made whilst being incompetent though. Why else would the digital gods have given us multiple takes and punch-in recording?

[dark water]

so im learning how to produce on a couple
of songs i can play the keyboard a bit have a basic understanding of theroy
and i can strum an acoustic
i want some guitar strumming chugging etc and i also like the shoegazey chorusey washed out guitar sound and clean 80s sound.

now the question should i get a vst to do this do you think ? like ujam or reason a list guitarist ( reason user)
or should i pull out the cheap guitar i bought a week ago i mean im 41 how long will it take before i can record some chugging or chords in my music like i said i can strum open chords on an acoustic
whats your advice time is against me
because i still have dreams...

Follow your dreams and learn the guitar and don't stress if it takes you a fair amount of time to get confident.
41 is a young age still.

However, fwiw, there are many good options for guitar vsti libraries out there.
I can't play guitar to save my life, so I often use the excellent guitar (and other instrument) libraries from this developer within some of my compositions:

https://insessionaudio.com/

[zerocrossing]

dreams.

depends what the dreams are.
personally if the dream is to have people who you don't know, who love for example shoe gaze, to listen to your music and want to listen again...
hire someone who can do it.

if your dream is to learn...
then just try it all, see which works.

how important is authentic sounding guitar to the dream?

im no maestro on guitar or synth, my only goal/dream is to have fun. so i do.
and im happy.
others are more focused on the outcome, and they are happy.

if you know your chords, chugging on 5ths should be no issue really, look on pootube for some palm muting tutorials

Last night I dreamed that I had to poop and the only bathroom around didn’t have any stalls, just out in the open toilets and people kept walking by. What should I do?

[vurt]

dreams.

depends what the dreams are.
personally if the dream is to have people who you don't know, who love for example shoe gaze, to listen to your music and want to listen again...
hire someone who can do it.

if your dream is to learn...
then just try it all, see which works.

how important is authentic sounding guitar to the dream?

im no maestro on guitar or synth, my only goal/dream is to have fun. so i do.
and im happy.
others are more focused on the outcome, and they are happy.

if you know your chords, chugging on 5ths should be no issue really, look on pootube for some palm muting tutorials

Last night I dreamed that I had to poop and the only bathroom around didn’t have any stalls, just out in the open toilets and people kept walking by. What should I do?

my poop dreams, i too need to drop the anchor, but every toilet i find looks like the one in trainspotting!
and i don't fancy sitting in a pool of shit

unlike piss dreams though, i tend not to wake up in dire need of a shit after a poop dream..
piss dream it's like defcon 1!

you should buy a fuzz pedal of course.
that's the answer to all questions

hope this helps

[revvy]

If your goal is to take the easy way out.....than just relax and do it all in the box.
Plenty of hip-hop and edm is made by kiddies on i-phones that think they're now producers.
And surprisingly enough, some of them actually get other people that don't know or care about quality music made by musicians to not only listen to it but buy it as well. Kanye comes to mind. Whatever makes you happy. Just don't expect respect from actual musicians.

There's a saying amongst computer coders.......G.I.G.O.....garbage in garbage out.

Why so sneering? Why target only certain genres of music with your wrath? What have you done that's equivalent of Kanye West's output? I'll defer to you on your knowledge of 'garbage', I'll leave that to the experts.

OP: I'm older than you and got from zero to not bad on the bass in quite a short time. Keep practicing and as others have suggested, layer too.

Unrelated, KVR needs to get a younger audience or its doomed to be the domain of the 'get off my old lawn' brigade. Are there similar places to KVR with a less old giffer vibe? I say that as an old giffer myself who simply rejects that vibe.

[vunn]

If your goal is to take the easy way out.....than just relax and do it all in the box.
Plenty of hip-hop and edm is made by kiddies on i-phones that think they're now producers.
And surprisingly enough, some of them actually get other people that don't know or care about quality music made by musicians to not only listen to it but buy it as well. Kanye comes to mind. Whatever makes you happy. Just don't expect respect from actual musicians.

There's a saying amongst computer coders.......G.I.G.O.....garbage in garbage out.

Why so sneering? Why target only certain genres of music with your wrath? What have you done that's equivalent of Kanye West's output? I'll defer to you on your knowledge of 'garbage', I'll leave that to the experts.

OP: I'm older than you and got from zero to not bad on the bass in quite a short time. Keep practicing and as others have suggested, layer too.

Unrelated, KVR needs to get a younger audience or its doomed to be the domain of the 'get off my old lawn' brigade. Are there similar places to KVR with a less old giffer vibe? I say that as an old giffer myself who simply rejects that vibe.

tbh i like electrinic indie pop stuff so im gonna mix guitar with electronic beats and synths antway so your right

[vunn]

thabks a lot if these answers are a big help

[donkey tugger]

If your goal is to take the easy way out.....than just relax and do it all in the box.
Plenty of hip-hop and edm is made by kiddies on i-phones that think they're now producers.
And surprisingly enough, some of them actually get other people that don't know or care about quality music made by musicians to not only listen to it but buy it as well. Kanye comes to mind. Whatever makes you happy. Just don't expect respect from actual musicians.

There's a saying amongst computer coders.......G.I.G.O.....garbage in garbage out.

Why so sneering? Why target only certain genres of music with your wrath? What have you done that's equivalent of Kanye West's output? I'll defer to you on your knowledge of 'garbage', I'll leave that to the experts.

OP: I'm older than you and got from zero to not bad on the bass in quite a short time. Keep practicing and as others have suggested, layer too.

Unrelated, KVR needs to get a younger audience or its doomed to be the domain of the 'get off my old lawn' brigade. Are there similar places to KVR with a less old giffer vibe? I say that as an old giffer myself who simply rejects that vibe.

tbh i like electrinic indie pop stufg so im gonna mix guitar with electronic beats and sytnths antway so your right

..and expanding upon that, some widdlers will say that you have to be some manner of virtuoso before you ever press record. I say (as I often do..) bollocks. Pick it up as you go along and learn as you do it. Lots of fun to be had even with just a few chords and some effects. Plus, the technology these days makes it easy to cobble together something presentable out of a right assortment of shite..been doing it for years.

It's supposed to be fun!