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VELLTONE MUSIC VELLTONE MUSIC https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=404834
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- 1297 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from Findlay OH USA
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Ancient Greek is printed with diacritical signs that indicate pitch fluctuation as well, though there's controversy as to how that fluctuation actually sounded. At any rate, the ancient language might have sounded quite melodic to listeners. Latin doesn't appear to include a pitch component, though again there's some argument about that.
I can't say whether their language influenced their musical thought, but the ancient Greeks were intensely interested in music, with particular attention to its use in mathematics. Alas, the surviving works of Greek music theory are almost entirely given over to theories of scale construction, with very little actually said about the performance of music. OTOH we have some good descriptions of musical performers from some of the Latin writers but no writings on music theory. I imagine they simply borrowed most of their performance practice from the Greeks.
Si valeas, valeo.
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Ancient Greek and Latin poetry use quantitative meters, i.e. the poetry is based on the length of syllables. (This is a very rough explanation, btw.) Old textbooks often explain Greek & Latin poetic meters by using musical rhythm notation. Here's a useful image:VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:54 pm ...
What is connection between ancient languages and development of music or opposite is music what makes some ancient languages so melodic like ancient greek?
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Ancient Greek is printed with diacritical signs that indicate pitch fluctuation as well, though there's controversy as to how that fluctuation actually sounded. At any rate, the ancient language might have sounded quite melodic to listeners. Latin doesn't appear to include a pitch component, though again there's some argument about that.
I can't say whether their language influenced their musical thought, but the ancient Greeks were intensely interested in music, with particular attention to its use in mathematics. Alas, the surviving works of Greek music theory are almost entirely given over to theories of scale construction, with very little actually said about the performance of music. OTOH we have some good descriptions of musical performers from some of the Latin writers but no writings on music theory. I imagine they simply borrowed most of their performance practice from the Greeks.
Si valeas, valeo.
dp
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- KVRAF
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- 2443 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
Hey thanks for the answer,i mean why some sounds so poetic,not technical part,could it be related with music exercises.
Not that all ancient are musical,just some influence makes them less or more melodic,like art,music.
Many european tribes after roman invasion sounds more harsh.
Before some factor to change a language,for example if you sing a lot or even if you start practice more melodic foreign language,you start to speak your own language little bit more melodically,but if roman put you on the arena against a cave lion you probably won't speak very melodic language any more,that's my theory :)Cheers
Not that all ancient are musical,just some influence makes them less or more melodic,like art,music.
Many european tribes after roman invasion sounds more harsh.
Before some factor to change a language,for example if you sing a lot or even if you start practice more melodic foreign language,you start to speak your own language little bit more melodically,but if roman put you on the arena against a cave lion you probably won't speak very melodic language any more,that's my theory :)Cheers
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- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:52 pm Hey thanks for the answer,i mean why some sounds so poetic,not technical part,could it be related with music exercises.
Not that all ancient are musical,just some influence makes them less or more melodic,like art,music.
Many european tribes after roman invasion sounds more harsh.
Before some factor to change a language,for example if you sing a lot or even if you start practice more melodic foreign language,you start to speak your own language little bit more melodically,but if roman put you on the arena against a cave lion you probably won't speak very melodic language any more,that's my theory :)Cheers![]()
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- KVRAF
- 16828 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Have you considered the possibility that only poetic texts have survived?
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VELLTONE MUSIC VELLTONE MUSIC https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=404834
- KVRAF
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- 2443 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
yep that's reasonable,usually when advanced civilization is totally wiped out,only poems,heroism and unpaid bills remains
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