KVR Audio

guitarsnfilms · Post by **guitarsnfilms** » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:02 pm

I'm trying to find a DX7 patch from a television score I grew up with. I know the patch is called MUTEGTR (spelled exactly like that) and I know it had to have existed before at least 1992, likely much earlier. I've seen an old printout of the composers TX816 banks, and it's clear they were a hodgepodge of patches from all over the place. Some patches he had show up again and again in the banks floating around today, others including MUTEGTR just don't. So I'm lead to believe MUTEGTR originated from a bank shared on Usenet or similar that, for whatever reason, wasn't widely archived.

A search on patches.fm brought up nothing. Since that data pool isn't the end-all-be-all, I've checked literally thousands of DX7 banks manually, and MUTEGTR wasn't in any of them. So if anybody happens to recognize or remember MUTEGTR, or has banks from Usenet that aren't from the 1989 USC archive, I'd really appreciate it. I'm not looking for patches that are similar, or have a similar vibe, I'm only interested in the actual MUTEGTR patch.

I've linked some clips from the show audio for reference (I hope linking to discord files is ok). MUTEGTR is the bouncy sound that plays on the offbeats.

mutegtr example 1

mutegtr example 2

Opal Two · Post by **Opal Two** » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:47 pm

I sort of wonder if it's related to the Mute Gtr preset in the DX11 factory banks - it does sound somewhat different to my ears, but there might be an effect or layered sound fooling me.

Good luck even if that's a red herring.

CapnLockheed · Post by **CapnLockheed** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:12 pm

I know I had that at one time. I used a TX802 as I used a MIDI guitar as a controller.
But I believe TX802 patches are compatible with a DX7. I owned all the old Yamaha
"black box" hardware synths and several 4op keyboards like the YS200 & DX21 but
I got rid of all the hardware years ago. I converted all the patches I used to NI's FM8
format. I just looked but didn't see that one. Not surprising tho....being a guitar player
I rarely used guitar patches.

Patchman still sells a TX802 bank that includes that patch:

https://www.patchmanmusic.com/yamahaTX802.html

TX802 Volume 2 Voices
1 Ethosphere 17 Badarou1 33 Catwoman1 49 StingSplt1
2 TXtural 18 Badarou2 34 Final End 50 Matrix 6
3 Auto-Mix 19 Woodklik1 35 Catwoman2 51 Xanadu1
4 AnalBass 20 Woodklik2 36 Oberheim 52 Matrix 12L
5 Sparkler 21 D50 1 37 Tite Comp 53 Matrix 12R
6 5th sphere 22 Klikbrass1 38 MikeFrankR 54 Xanadu2
7 Arp 1 23 Arp 2 39 MikeFrankL 55 SergeBass
8 Slid Glass 24 Klikbrass2 40 AahStrings 56 Mini Moog1
9 Doombell 25 Choirstra 41 D50 Airvox 57 MoogBass1
10 Fusionvox 26 Aaaahh... 42 BerlinBass 58 Pop It!
11 Disdance 27 Auto-Mix 43 Heavenly 59 Enya
12 Mega Bass 28 Bellvox 44 Rhodes-Pno 60 Harp Drum
13 ChorusBell 29 Shimmervox 45 Sting-Spl2 61 Fallingoff
14 Bellharp 30 AnalogStr1 46 SY99 1 62 Mute Gtr.
15 Pianissimo 31 Matrix 6 47 NuRhodes L 63 Prophet
16 Gabriel Pn 32 Wally B. 48 NuRhodes R 64 802 Bass

guitarsnfilms · Post by **guitarsnfilms** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:41 am

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CapnLockheed wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:12 pm Patchman still sells a TX802 bank that includes that patch:

https://www.patchmanmusic.com/yamahaTX802.html (https://www.patchmanmusic.com/yamahaTX802.html)

I picked up that bank and it's nowhere close unfortunately. Their patch is also called "Mute Gtr." whereas the one I'm after is called "MUTEGTR". Given the other known patches in his bank weren't renamed, I'm fairly sure this name and format are original.

If you have a backup anywhere of the patches you didn't convert, I'd love to take a look.

waltercruz · Post by **waltercruz** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:11 am

gtrs_l-n.syx in deckard.zip (Jack Deckard sysex collection) has som patches with similar name... MUT-GUITER, MUT GUIT2, MUTEGUIT1, etc. maybe it's one of them?

guitarsnfilms · Post by **guitarsnfilms** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:49 am

Not those either, unfortunately. Names aren't the exact format and the sound isn't close.

muki · Post by **muki** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:37 pm

dx7 ?
have you tried BlackWinny's Dexed_cart ?

http://hsjp.eu/downloads/Dexed/Dexed_cart_1.0.zip
https://asb2m10.github.io/dexed/

it is *the* collection of thousands of dx7 sysex sounds that were ever available...

tf-drone · Post by **tf-drone** » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:51 pm

Hi,

here is another link with even more info and sounds: http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/yamaha_dx7/dx7_patches.html

waltercruz · Post by **waltercruz** » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:42 am

well, I tried to search on bobby blues All Patches zip and it's not there.

Used this tool to try to find it:

https://github.com/biocommando/dx7-patch-explorer

(a bit hackish,but seems to work well).

There's some patches with similar names (MUTEGUIT 3, MUTEGUIT 1, etc) on file SynLib_263.syx and on SynLib_264.syx) from the SynLib DX_TX (Marc Bareille).zip on Bobby Blues site.

http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/yamaha_dx7/p ... lle%29.zip

knob_monster · Post by **knob_monster** » Sat Jun 27, 2026 2:20 pm

The MUTEGTR patch haunts every DX7 owner who didn't back up before the battery died.

It's in the original ROM1A bank - if you need the raw sysex, can dump it from my DX7. But seriously, this thread is a reminder to backup BEFORE the battery warning.

psycho45039 · Post by **psycho45039** » Sat Jun 27, 2026 6:31 pm

Downloads for the original rooms can be found here:

https://yamahablackboxes.com/collection ... r/patches/

Looking for lost DX7 patch "MUTEGTR"