Which developers are a safe bet for longevity.

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KVRAF
3631 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:32 am

Fwiw drumspillage (via rosetta) still works on my M1 and its been updated in 2014 lol.
Now that’s a healthy codebase

KVRist
44 posts since 24 Apr, 2019

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:46 am

From a slightly different perspective, VST2 x64 is likely to stick around for a long time, and VST3 isn't going anywhere either. As long as the plugin has a 64-bit version and has at least some kind of scaling, you should be able to use it for a really long time.

The two biggest problems we've encountered were the 32-bit to 64-bit transition, and the drop of 32-bit support (though it's still supported natively in some DAWs, and also jBridge can still be used, afaik), and the rise of monitor resolution. So anything 32-bit only and/or with UI hardcoded for a 1024x768 resolution (give or take) is problematic or unusable nowadays, and it's unlikely to get better unless someone comes up with a really clever and stable wrapper that will also scale the plugins' UI. There's also Apple with their M1, but that's just Apple being Apple, you shouldn't be surprised by this, their walled garden approach to their products is well known.

As far as safe bet for continued updates? Just look at the company's history. u-he has stellar long term support, for example. NI, like some other companies, sells giant bundles with 34534663465 plugins, samples, and everything imaginable, but in practice half or more of all that is old or downright ancient stuff. Plus it depends on the product as well. Valhalla plugins, for instance, have a dead simple, foolproof UI, and the plugins themselves are just simple FX plugins. Probably not much need for constant support/updates. On the other hand, complex synths or samplers with tons of bells and whistles? Just the opposite.

KVRAF
5072 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:48 am

Since half of the people in this thread are on my ignore list I lost track anyway.
I regret all my comments here and simply stay to my first one:
None.

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KVRian
510 posts since 31 May, 2015 from the Iberian Peninsula

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:08 am

Hardware?

Edit: Or just build a machine specifically for audio, do not ever update. With easy to find components, so you can repair it in the future. The software you put there will stay there for as long as you can keep the computer running.

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KVRist
75 posts since 3 Jan, 2021

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:24 am

Jorgeelalto wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:08 am
Edit: Or just build a machine specifically for audio, do not ever update. With easy to find components, so you can repair it in the future. The software you put there will stay there for as long as you can keep the computer running.
That works for your old plugins, but what do you do if you want to mix it with new plugins requiring a new OS or whatever?

KVRian
617 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:28 am

Most old stuff still works. At least on Windows. Biggest problem is tiny interfaces on high resolution screens.
Oh and online registration methods, should the developer vanish
“People pay good money for old stuff because they mistakenly think that the gear has more to do with the products than it actually did. And because it makes them feel good to own it.“ wise man on GS

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addled muppet weed
77741 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:31 am

uOpt wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:24 am
Jorgeelalto wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:08 am
Edit: Or just build a machine specifically for audio, do not ever update. With easy to find components, so you can repair it in the future. The software you put there will stay there for as long as you can keep the computer running.
That works for your old plugins, but what do you do if you want to mix it with new plugins requiring a new OS or whatever?
use old rig as a standalone hw synth, record audio to new rig.

it's an option.

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KVRAF
29703 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:32 am

"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" :ud:

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KVRAF
8996 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:33 am

uOpt wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:24 am
Jorgeelalto wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:08 am
Edit: Or just build a machine specifically for audio, do not ever update. With easy to find components, so you can repair it in the future. The software you put there will stay there for as long as you can keep the computer running.
That works for your old plugins, but what do you do if you want to mix it with new plugins requiring a new OS or whatever?
Then you build a new computer with the new OS and simply use the old computer as any other hardware synth, an external device.
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot

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addled muppet weed
77741 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:33 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:32 am
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" :ud:
:phones:

it's just the spirit of the age.

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KVRAF
29703 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:43 am

vurt wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:33 am
thecontrolcentre wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:32 am
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" :ud:
:phones:

it's just the spirit of the age.
it makes me feel greater

KVRAF
27902 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:05 am

FapFilter wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:11 am
What Cinebient and Chapelle said.
Yep.

KVRer
9 posts since 17 May, 2014

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:21 am

For me:
u-he
Spectrasonics

KVRian
517 posts since 19 Oct, 2020

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:27 am

None. With a sufficiently big value of 'long'.
VST2 is 20 years now, how many of the really old devs still exist? And how many are a one man show?
Who would have thought that Netscape, Yahoo, Geocities,... aren't the big guys today?

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KVRian
1345 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany

Post Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:42 am

I don't care that much about their longevity as the only longevity which really matters in the end will be my own. :hihi:
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