f. 'em - a new FM synth from Tracktion

[SoundPorn]

No, and I wasn't asleep for the years Bitwig was trying to code a modular patching infrastructure within their DAW like Traktion already had forever. But this isn't that. And Hyperion is a standalone and plugin.
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F'Em and Hyperion look great and even better, creative and innovative.

Have you been hibernated for the last 2 years and missed Bitwig's Grid??

[SoundPorn]

[Spirit2020]

Fem?

Another disappointment in my eyes.

We want not another super Dx7!

Where is the Yamaha SY99 in 2021

[gentleclockdivider]

fem has more in common with an sy than a dx
It has-loopable envelopes , filters , free algoritms , samples as modulators , extended waveforms ( not sure how many )
Things we don't know .
Do the operators have Phase offset , zero hertz etc...
That being said , you will probably never see a 1:1 sy/tgg in software becasue the filters will sound different , the rom is trademarked , and it has that sound , which is why I got one ( tg77)
Featurewise the closest thing to the tg/sy ( minus the samples ) is tranzistow

[pdxindy]

No, and I wasn't asleep for the years Bitwig was trying to code a modular patching infrastructure within their DAW like Traktion already had forever.

Tracktion has had a modular rack system for a long time... but it is not very user friendly. Live's racks were/are much easier to use. Same with Bitwig which is faster and more intuitive for doing that sort of stuff than Tracktion/Waveform.

Tracktion never had anything like Bitwig's Grid... and still doesn't.

[noiseresearch]

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[DocAtlas]

fem has more in common with an sy than a dx
It has-loopable envelopes , filters , free algoritms , samples as modulators , extended waveforms ( not sure how many )
Things we don't know .
Do the operators have Phase offset , zero hertz etc...
That being said , you will probably never see a 1:1 sy/tgg in software becasue the filters will sound different , the rom is trademarked , and it has that sound , which is why I got one ( tg77)
Featurewise the closest thing to the tg/sy ( minus the samples ) is tranzistow

I grabbed a few screenshots from the video last night, and looking at the operator parameters, there is a dial labeled 'start phase'. I'll try to post the images when I get home from work.

[bermudagold]

No, and I wasn't asleep for the years Bitwig was trying to code a modular patching infrastructure within their DAW like Traktion already had forever.

Tracktion has had a modular rack system for a long time... but it is not very user friendly. Live's racks were/are much easier to use. Same with Bitwig which is faster and more intuitive for doing that sort of stuff than Tracktion/Waveform.

Tracktion never had anything like Bitwig's Grid... and still doesn't.

I disagree...in addition to tracktion predating both...i think visual routing for small to medium size creations is more intuitive and faster than the Live routing method...Live's serial chain concept and the automatable chain slider to morph between parallel serial chains is elegant design for sure...but Tracktion racks have allowed you to build your own workstation, stringing together plugins in serial and parallel you can mimic every signal stage of various architectures with separate plugin choice for each processing stage...and you can create key, velocity, or frequency split paths through your architecture...most oscillator fx can be mimicked with audio fx and there are plenty of plugins that can do that, and native envelope or midi followers can be placed between plugins in the rack to do things that mimic cross modulation...it may not be zero delay this and audio rate that, but all that matters is the sounds coming out the other end you can create and their ability to generate a visceral response and inspire...modular plugin racks with visual routing and native modulation (a la the grid in bitwig) was not new or novel...tracktion has been down this path for over ten years...Mulab and Hollyhock have had it for years, and FL Studio added it before bitwig
the discussion of bitwig grid has always been quite hyperbolic as far as I can tell

[Examigan]

I just noticed from the video that the Flow LFO section at the bottom looks similar to Biotek 2, so that's pretty cool.

[bermudagold]

I just noticed from the video that the Flow LFO section at the bottom looks similar to Biotek 2, so that's pretty cool.

if I'm not mistaken subtractive, collective, and biotek are all built from their "Aktion" modular codebase...which seems likely when you look at the commonality of the layer architecture, functionality tabs, modifier modules, and GUI elements....since the same guy who made biotek is making F'em, seems logical to maximize reuse of things beleived to work well and already be familiar to customers...I was always surprised in this modulation obsessed world, that biotek wasn't talked about much with its extensive drag and drop visual feedback modifier suite...inception lfos are indeed cool

[gentleclockdivider]

No, and I wasn't asleep for the years Bitwig was trying to code a modular patching infrastructure within their DAW like Traktion already had forever.

Tracktion has had a modular rack system for a long time... but it is not very user friendly. Live's racks were/are much easier to use. Same with Bitwig which is faster and more intuitive for doing that sort of stuff than Tracktion/Waveform.

Tracktion never had anything like Bitwig's Grid... and still doesn't.

I disagree...in addition to tracktion predating both...i think visual routing for small to medium size creations is more intuitive and faster than the Live routing method...Live's serial chain concept and the automatable chain slider to morph between parallel serial chains is elegant design for sure...but Tracktion racks have allowed you to build your own workstation, stringing together plugins in serial and parallel you can mimic every signal stage of various architectures with separate plugin choice for each processing stage...and you can create key, velocity, or frequency split paths through your architecture...most oscillator fx can be mimicked with audio fx and there are plenty of plugins that can do that, and native envelope or midi followers can be placed between plugins in the rack to do things that mimic cross modulation...it may not be zero delay this and audio rate that, but all that matters is the sounds coming out the other end you can create and their ability to generate a visceral response and inspire...modular plugin racks with visual routing and native modulation (a la the grid in bitwig) was not new or novel...tracktion has been down this path for over ten years...Mulab and Hollyhock have had it for years, and FL Studio added it before bitwig
the discussion of bitwig grid has always been quite hyperbolic as far as I can tell

It makes a big difference if the modular routing is updated at sample rate as opposed to control rate , throw in some math modules and you 're set .
While bitwig grid certainly has it flaws ( feedback buffer is determined by audio buffer size ) , it does far exceed fl studio/tracktion control rate only routings .
Native midi plugins in fl sudio or whatever won't change that , you can't create formant synthesis , vosim type oscillators etc.. if the system can't handle per sample update calculations .
Fl studio has none of that .

[pdxindy]

the discussion of bitwig grid has always been quite hyperbolic as far as I can tell

There is nothing quite like Bitwig's Grid in other DAW's... for workflow it is unmatched by any modular environment in software.

But what the Grid isn't, is a routing matrix for plugins. If you want to layer 2-3 synths with velocity or key splits in Bitwig you would/could not use the Grid for that. You would use the regular layer/selector devices which are similar to Lives racks.

I used Tracktion for few years. The modular racks in Tracktion, while powerful, are not fast and intuitive. When Lives racks came out, 80% of what people do with Tracktion-racks was like 10x faster in Live. Live's racks offered a little less capability for far better workflow.

I always liked Tracktion. I stopped using it cause it crashed so frequently. Even after I stopped using it I upgraded for years to the latest version. I finally stopped upgrading a couple versions back cause it never stopped being a crash-fest (on Mac).

[bermudagold]

It makes a big difference if the modular routing is updated at sample rate as opposed to control rate , throw in some math modules and you 're set .
While bitwig grid certainly has it flaws ( feedback buffer is determined by audio buffer size ) , it does far exceed fl studio/tracktion control rate only routings .
Native midi plugins in fl sudio or whatever won't change that , you can't create formant synthesis , vosim type oscillators etc.. if the system can't handle per sample update calculations .
Fl studio has none of that .

true...and I'm sure bitwig builds from objects at lower levels of abstraction and goes further with operations,...I'm just speaking to the larger set of holistic use cases.
I've also seen a lot of evidence that the differences between like type sounds because of creation architecture and methods while audible, are not as significant to most listeners as believed even when soloed, and largely inconsequential at the compositional level.
but valid point taken

[bermudagold]

The modular racks in Tracktion, while powerful, are not fast and intuitive. When Lives racks came out, 80% of what people do with Tracktion-racks was like 10x faster in Live. Live's racks offered a little less capability for far better workflow.

interesting experience and perspective...I definitely had a few data points around me that reacted/felt the opposite...cognitive performance is a complex subject with lots of variables for sure.

[gentleclockdivider]

It makes a big difference if the modular routing is updated at sample rate as opposed to control rate , throw in some math modules and you 're set .
While bitwig grid certainly has it flaws ( feedback buffer is determined by audio buffer size ) , it does far exceed fl studio/tracktion control rate only routings .
Native midi plugins in fl sudio or whatever won't change that , you can't create formant synthesis , vosim type oscillators etc.. if the system can't handle per sample update calculations .
Fl studio has none of that .

true...and I'm sure bitwig builds from objects at lower levels of abstraction and goes further with operations,...I'm just speaking to the larger set of holistic use cases.
I've also seen a lot of evidence that the differences between like type sounds because of creation architecture and methods while audible, are not as significant to most listeners as believed even when soloed, and largely inconsequential at the compositional level.
but valid point taken

Of course there is a difference , you can’t expect a lame control rate to have the same high fidelity as per sample calculations.
It maye be fine for simple pw or pitch, filter modulation but that’s it , see reason with it’s slow cv update rate ( altough some rack extensions provide sr update ).
That is exactly what’s fun about (digital ) modulars , an lfo or osc don’t really have any difference when they both run at high speed , the lfo is an dc signal ( like an envelope ) while the osc is an ac signal , but both are updated at the same speed ( sample rate) .
Or add an ofset value to your osc and you also get a dc signal , amplitude modulate and sync the ac. osc with dc. osc and you have windowed sync...none of which is possible in a low update system