Which Daw has the tightest internal midi?

[chk071]

Steinberg have enough credit for inventing VST already.

[Crholdin]

Wikipedia as a counter?
And yes perhaps I wasn’t completely accurate in my very short and truncated post but the point remains the same - VST and MIDI are what they are due to steinberg

If that isn’t apparent feel free to google yoursleves on “steinberg +midi+x” x being invented, implemented or developed

Plus the OP is about what’s the best MIDI and again maybe I’m hyperbolic to you but cubase is the best for what the op asked

Please google it, in the end I was only trying to help the answer

[lessera]

Plus the OP is about what’s the best MIDI ... in the end I was only trying to help the answer

I am sure that 11 years later, the OP has long since moved on.

Help is appreciated, no argument there. But so is accuracy.

[Crholdin]

[Guenon]

And yes perhaps I wasn’t completely accurate in my very short and truncated post but the point remains the same

The point is...

Steinberg not only invented the first DAWs, it created MIDI itself

...is not true at all (i.e. both specific statements in that short snippet are false.)

And yeah, it's just a random historical statement being incorrect on an internet forum, so no actual harm done

[Crholdin]

It’s definitely partially true if your perspective is of Windows based digital audio recording

The harm that’s done isn’t on here , and if it is, it’s not def nothing to do with me, maybe the harm is some research and perspective that’s lacking instead of soft serve fast food single noncontextual facts, like CNN does with the news. If you want a simple answer to the OP Cubase is the best and original midis especially for Windows or however you want to rephrase it. If that’s not good enough to understand the history I’ve explained enough ....

The poor internet , what will it do with subjective forum posts riddled with information that’s not phrased or certifiably verifiable by Wikipedia I

Relax guys, how many told me this ain’t a place for real producers ??? Like which is it lol

[Guenon]

It’s definitely partially true if your perspective is of Windows based digital audio recording

No, I know I should let it rest, for aforementioned reasons (it's just not that important, in this context), but come on . Some of us were there. This is completely incorrect on both accounts, and all this goalpost shuffling only makes it worse. There were literally several other environments running pro digital audio even on Windows before Steinberg's offering. Saying then, of Steinberg, that they "invented the first DAWs" ... like, even if you narrow it down to then-current Windows it doesn't make sense.

In any case that would be different from "inventing the first DAWs", just like saying they "created MIDI itself."

[gentleclockdivider]

Cubase

Steinberg not only invented the first DAWs, it created MIDI itself - nothing comes close to MIDI control than Cubase Pro

without a doubt - but it is expensive, unless you're a teacher/student ($300)

LOOLLLZZZzzzz

[apoclypse]

It’s definitely partially true if your perspective is of Windows based digital audio recording

The harm that’s done isn’t on here , and if it is, it’s not def nothing to do with me, maybe the harm is some research and perspective that’s lacking instead of soft serve fast food single noncontextual facts, like CNN does with the news. If you want a simple answer to the OP Cubase is the best and original midis especially for Windows or however you want to rephrase it. If that’s not good enough to understand the history I’ve explained enough ....

The poor internet , what will it do with subjective forum posts riddled with information that’s not phrased or certifiably verifiable by Wikipedia I

Relax guys, how many told me this ain’t a place for real producers ??? Like which is it lol

Dude just stop. You are wrong on pretty much every level. Cubase is not the first DAW, and it didn't invent Midi in Windows or otherwise. No one is saying Steinberg hasn't been hugely influential in the DAW space or just computer music software in general but let's not give them more credit than they are due.

[audiouser720]

Lolz... Who cares who invented what. That has nothing to do with the topic. Couldn't give two bananas about it tbh. I just asked which DAW has the tightest midi in people's experience... In 2010... And now... And in between.

Anyway thanks @gentleclockdivider for the only valuable response so far.

[Crholdin]

It’s definitely partially true if your perspective is of Windows based digital audio recording

The harm that’s done isn’t on here , and if it is, it’s not def nothing to do with me, maybe the harm is some research and perspective that’s lacking instead of soft serve fast food single noncontextual facts, like CNN does with the news. If you want a simple answer to the OP Cubase is the best and original midis especially for Windows or however you want to rephrase it. If that’s not good enough to understand the history I’ve explained enough ....

The poor internet , what will it do with subjective forum posts riddled with information that’s not phrased or certifiably verifiable by Wikipedia I

Relax guys, how many told me this ain’t a place for real producers ??? Like which is it lol

Dude just stop. You are wrong on pretty much every level. Cubase is not the first DAW, and it didn't invent Midi in Windows or otherwise. No one is saying Steinberg hasn't been hugely influential in the DAW space or just computer music software in general but let's not give them more credit than they are due.

Fine.......

At least you said “on ALMOST” every level and I’ll leave it at that.

Still to answer the Op simply, cubase for midi IMHO, if that’s permissible to you all?

[melomood]

Oh ok

[lessera]

Lolz... Who cares who invented what.

Probably the people who lived through that era, and might know a thing or two about it.

[BertKoor]

Plus the OP is about what’s the best MIDI ... in the end I was only trying to help the answer

I am sure that 11 years later, the OP has long since moved on.

Funny you mention that. Back on page 6 he did react:

Shame the discussion didnt get to the actual point, but thats ok, I enjoyed reading all your points.

Then he asked a random company about a group buy, and we never heard of him again.

[Tj Shredder]

Midi, the one which is running through those 5-pin cables cannot be tight for technical reasons, whereas computers can be. Conclusion all DAWs are as tight as any other. If not its a bug...

The only connection to Midi history is, that Yamaha was on board for the first Midi spec and the early DX7 had one of the earliest implementations (almost to the later released spec). Yamaha bought Steinberg... But thats Yamahas history not Steinbergs.

I think I wrote my first Midi programs in Pascal before Steinberg was founded on an Apple ][ clone... (maybe even before Bill Gates sold DOS to IBM...)