Cherry Audio Releases Polymode Synthesizer Plugin!

VST, AU, AAX, CLAP, etc. Plugin Virtual Instruments Discussion
Post Reply New Topic
RELATED
PRODUCTS

Post

Dark Fiber wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:19 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:08 pm Look another user mentions the aliasing issue , looks like it's not only in ca 2600 .
They will probably accuse me of using pop sucket account , just like they did on gearslutz .
It seems that the polymoog does not have osc.sync ..it would make the aliiasing even worse
If I were you, then you would be me!
And you'd be living in The Netherlands, a land full of Nethers.

Ontopic:
In 2021 it's really strange to come across aliasing soft synths. Especially the ones claiming to be an emulation of a hardware synth. (there's no aliasing in the analog domain)
My grandfather was dutch and emigrated from Lelystad to belgium .
I'm belgian but love holland , we went there sailing every year during the 80's , veerse meer , grevelingen etc both with the family and as a seascout ( wilde eend ) ..great childhood memories
Eyeball exchanging
Soul calibrating ..frequencies

Post

AdvancedFollower wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:34 pm
Arashi wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:48 am
johnwoo wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:26 am Don't understand me wrong ... I like it too ... But why , they don't do an Alessis Andromeda A6 or Arturia Matrix Brute ... This will be interesting to see ... And hear ... :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
I'll be first in line if anyone is ever brave enough to make an emulation of the Andromeda.
Is there anything unique that the Andromeda does that has not yet been emulated in a VST apart from the actual user interface? I mean plugins like Dune 3, ANA2, Pigments, Serum, Diva, PolyKB etc. are already very flexible in the way they allow you to set up oscillators, filters and modulation routings. What USP from the A6 has not yet been emulated?
Never! We need more Minimoog, OB6, and Prophet5 emulations!

Post

johnwoo wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:49 am Yet another emulation of something old , that are already emulated by others, 20000 times already ...
Come on guys , use your imagination and came on the market with something new , never been done ...
Very True :tu: - Instead going forward using new technology - it's all going backwards product release wise.
It would be more exciting to hear a synth that's producing Stone Age sounds :idea:
And a sharper gui would look after your eyesight at the same time.

Is my laptop HD screen blurry - or is it the gui so badly blurred on purpose? :x
MPG X670E CARBON Ryzen 9 7900, 64Gb 6K DDR5 4x2tb Nvmes

Post

Polymode is not an emulation of a Polymoog. The first couple sentences of the product description state "Inspired by the 70s-era Polymoog synthesizer...". And then they go on to talk about the enhancements over the original they've included in Polymode.

Post

had Andromeda, never used it. LEARNED the programming, but it was not FUN to program, nor immediate to program, tweak and play. I prefer musical inspiration, not detractants.

Enter: Cherry Audio!
Fun to program, sounds GREAT, price is outstanding.... tried the MG-1, dang near identical to my real one. So, bought the 106, loved it also. Went ahead and got the Ploy and 2600 without testing, and love them both. And I already own the Arturia 2600, which is fine, but presets don't seem as fun to just pull up and play as the CA2600.

Aliasing I RARELY run across, never seems to destroy my musical mojo, so I just don't care about that. :D

Post

wwjd wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:45 pm
Enter: Cherry Audio!
Fun to program, sounds GREAT, price is outstanding....
please, could you say me what kind of copy protection they use for their synths ? I cant find it on their site
---

Post

ThomasLehmann wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:04 pm
wwjd wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:45 pm
Enter: Cherry Audio!
Fun to program, sounds GREAT, price is outstanding....
please, could you say me what kind of copy protection they use for their synths ? I cant find it on their site
Some online activation thing using your Cherry Audio account.

Post

ReleaseCandidate wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:11 pm
ThomasLehmann wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:04 pm
wwjd wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:45 pm
Enter: Cherry Audio!
Fun to program, sounds GREAT, price is outstanding....
please, could you say me what kind of copy protection they use for their synths ? I cant find it on their site
Some online activation thing using your Cherry Audio account.
thanks for the info.
now I found this:
You do need to create a Cherry Audio account and connect your computer to the Internet to activate Surrealistic MG-1 Plus. Once it is activated, you can use Surrealistic MG-1 Plus offline.
---

Post

AdvancedFollower wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:34 pm Is there anything unique that the Andromeda does that has not yet been emulated in a VST apart from the actual user interface? I mean plugins like Dune 3, ANA2, Pigments, Serum, Diva, PolyKB etc. are already very flexible in the way they allow you to set up oscillators, filters and modulation routings. What USP from the A6 has not yet been emulated?
I just want to explore the instrument itself, including the interface (albeit an on-screen version that isn’t as fun to use). Friend of mine had one when they first came out, and it was just mind-blowing to me, but I didn’t really know what I was doing with it at the time.

As an analog synth, it’s also a “sum of its parts” thing. I’m sure you could make similar patches on any number of other synths, but they won’t quite have the same character unless someone models the actual components and architecture of the Andromeda — even then, people will debate whether the emulation got it right, but it should still be much closer than simply approximating it by configuring a different synth in a similar way.

After all, the Jupiter-8 (to pick another analog poly synth as a more well-known example) is a relatively simple synth, but the only one on your list that gets even close to it is Diva, because it actually models analog components and behavior — but even if you use the JP-8-inspired VCO and VCF modules, Diva does not do a very convincing Jupiter-8. (I love Diva though! It just isn’t a Jupiter-8, much less the far more complex Andromeda.)
Stormchild

Post

ThomasLehmann wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:26 pm
ReleaseCandidate wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:11 pm
ThomasLehmann wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:04 pm
wwjd wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:45 pm
Enter: Cherry Audio!
Fun to program, sounds GREAT, price is outstanding....
please, could you say me what kind of copy protection they use for their synths ? I cant find it on their site
Some online activation thing using your Cherry Audio account.
thanks for the info.
now I found this:
You do need to create a Cherry Audio account and connect your computer to the Internet to activate Surrealistic MG-1 Plus. Once it is activated, you can use Surrealistic MG-1 Plus offline.
That sums it up. I had to LOGIN to a couple instruments, then was good to go. I plugged in my MG-1 to the same interface, to the same Studio Monitor and the VSTi was 99% accurate. Any difference would be real differences tween old models. My MG is getting old, and the oscillators getting wiggy (non musical) and the SURREALISTIC is able to replace it. Plus, do so much more.

Post

Arashi wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:21 pm
AdvancedFollower wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:34 pm Is there anything unique that the Andromeda does that has not yet been emulated in a VST apart from the actual user interface? I mean plugins like Dune 3, ANA2, Pigments, Serum, Diva, PolyKB etc. are already very flexible in the way they allow you to set up oscillators, filters and modulation routings. What USP from the A6 has not yet been emulated?
I just want to explore the instrument itself, including the interface (albeit an on-screen version that isn’t as fun to use). Friend of mine had one when they first came out, and it was just mind-blowing to me, but I didn’t really know what I was doing with it at the time.

As an analog synth, it’s also a “sum of its parts” thing. I’m sure you could make similar patches on any number of other synths, but they won’t quite have the same character unless someone models the actual components and architecture of the Andromeda — even then, people will debate whether the emulation got it right, but it should still be much closer than simply approximating it by configuring a different synth in a similar way.

After all, the Jupiter-8 (to pick another analog poly synth as a more well-known example) is a relatively simple synth, but the only one on your list that gets even close to it is Diva, because it actually models analog components and behavior — but even if you use the JP-8-inspired VCO and VCF modules, Diva does not do a very convincing Jupiter-8. (I love Diva though! It just isn’t a Jupiter-8, much less the far more complex Andromeda.)
This MIGHT feel somewhat in the ballpark. Looks like it is short some controls, but there is not much else out there. Doesn't sound like it at all, of course. I have not used this.

https://vst4free.com/plugin/2627/

Post

wwjd wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:40 pm That sums it up. I had to LOGIN to a couple instruments, then was good to go. I plugged in my MG-1 to the same interface, to the same Studio Monitor and the VSTi was 99% accurate. Any difference would be real differences tween old models. My MG is getting old, and the oscillators getting wiggy (non musical) and the SURREALISTIC is able to replace it. Plus, do so much more.
Nice. I was wondering how accurate it is. Never played with a real one, but I thought the plugin sounds pretty decent.
wwjd wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:48 pm This MIGHT feel somewhat in the ballpark. Looks like it is short some controls, but there is not much else out there. Doesn't sound like it at all, of course. I have not used this.

https://vst4free.com/plugin/2627/
It's Win32 only anyway, but yeah, this looks like something thrown together in SynthEdit. Probably not great.
Stormchild

Post

abernathy wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:57 am
plexuss wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:11 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:30 pm Why don't you guys fix the aliasing osc sync issue in arp 2600 ??
This thread is about Polymode and your question is best handled by a support email.
But Support knows and it hasn’t been handled.
That's also my top issue with CA, seems not to be much interested in maintenance or enhancement of existing products. At least that's unfortunately my impression from my limited experience. Still like their stuff a lot, but that has stopped me getting more products from them currently.

Post

midi_transmission wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:40 am
abernathy wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:57 am
plexuss wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:11 am
gentleclockdivider wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:30 pm Why don't you guys fix the aliasing osc sync issue in arp 2600 ??
This thread is about Polymode and your question is best handled by a support email.
But Support knows and it hasn’t been handled.
That's also my top issue with CA, seems not to be much interested in maintenance or enhancement of existing products. At least that's unfortunately my impression from my limited experience. Still like their stuff a lot, but that has stopped me getting more products from them currently.
There is more to a plugin business than jumping through hoops for customers. You have to look at their track record and judge accordingly. This sense of entitlement is unfortunate. I wouldn't survive as a plugin dev because I;d tell customers like you to get stuffed. Cherry fixes their software. They also prioritize taking into account the big picture. Your specific priorities may not be theirs. It takes time in among all the other things they are doing. Fire up some of your bug free plugins, take a chill pill and wait.

Post

AdvancedFollower wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:34 pm
Arashi wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:48 am
johnwoo wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:26 am Don't understand me wrong ... I like it too ... But why , they don't do an Alessis Andromeda A6 or Arturia Matrix Brute ... This will be interesting to see ... And hear ... :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
I'll be first in line if anyone is ever brave enough to make an emulation of the Andromeda.
Is there anything unique that the Andromeda does that has not yet been emulated in a VST apart from the actual user interface? I mean plugins like Dune 3, ANA2, Pigments, Serum, Diva, PolyKB etc. are already very flexible in the way they allow you to set up oscillators, filters and modulation routings. What USP from the A6 has not yet been emulated?
Was just an ideea ... Today developers do things in flock . (Rhetoric question) What Arturia have done yesterday as an emulation ? This blah, blah, blah .... (Competitor Developer) I will make too this Blah Blah Blah but with rings and stars , 2 moons and God knows what else ... Please People , create something new. There are gems never emulated and it will nice to see an Arturia MatrixBrute remade as a Vsti ... I , personally , I'm not very interested in a copycat old synth, already made by others 30000 times, with just 2 extra something , to make this more interesting ...

Post Reply

Return to “Instruments”