Cherry Audio Releases Polymode Synthesizer Plugin!

[briefcasemanx]

I wonder how many pages of internet arguing there are, due to people that don't make music using cracked versions of some plugin analyzer, that wouldn't exist if such tools weren't available.

I have never in my life said, "got me a new plugin, now it's time to break out the old FFT spectrum analyzer and also lets check the stereo phase coherency of 2nd order harmonics produced by SoftClipAlgo2 on a sine sweep". There's nothing inherently wrong with that but don't be a weirdo and crap in every thread by that developer on every forum on the internet. Its not like they ripped you off because you don't like how one moderately useful function on a $30 synth full of useful functions sounds(or, looks in an analyzer).

I don't see any screenshots of analyzers in this thread or previous threads. If you cannot hear aliasing, that's your luck. Other people do. You sound like you have no respect for different views of others.

I have no respect for people bringing an issue from one piece of software into every single thread from that company, trying to get attention.

And yes I'm capable of hearing distortion when it's audible.

If this new synth didn't have the aliasing issue, you wouldn't have read anything about it. However...

I have no respect for people trying to get attention with disrepect for people who have different opinions or preferences.

Cool, I haven't even downloaded Polymode yet but you e got me super interested in the aliasing all of a sudden! Feel free to post an example of the aliasing you're talking about, the same sound both solo'ed and in an actual mix. Also if you could post the patch so users can verify for themselves, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.

[Dark Fiber]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

[dave dove]

audio engineers do what audio engineers do...

[WasteLand]

I wonder how many pages of internet arguing there are, due to people that don't make music using cracked versions of some plugin analyzer, that wouldn't exist if such tools weren't available.

I have never in my life said, "got me a new plugin, now it's time to break out the old FFT spectrum analyzer and also lets check the stereo phase coherency of 2nd order harmonics produced by SoftClipAlgo2 on a sine sweep". There's nothing inherently wrong with that but don't be a weirdo and crap in every thread by that developer on every forum on the internet. Its not like they ripped you off because you don't like how one moderately useful function on a $30 synth full of useful functions sounds(or, looks in an analyzer).

I don't see any screenshots of analyzers in this thread or previous threads. If you cannot hear aliasing, that's your luck. Other people do. You sound like you have no respect for different views of others.

I have no respect for people bringing an issue from one piece of software into every single thread from that company, trying to get attention.

And yes I'm capable of hearing distortion when it's audible.

If this new synth didn't have the aliasing issue, you wouldn't have read anything about it. However...

I have no respect for people trying to get attention with disrepect for people who have different opinions or preferences.

Cool, I haven't even downloaded Polymode yet but you e got me super interested in the aliasing all of a sudden! Feel free to post an example of the aliasing you're talking about, the same sound both solo'ed and in an actual mix. Also if you could post the patch so users can verify for themselves, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.

you forget that, he is here in the thread and mentions it himself, that almost everything those 'doctors' reported was fixed for CA2600, except for a few, ore one thing.

and cherry audio is still busy trying to get VM right, at other sample rates...

it is not only aliasing...

why don't the vst's run at 48.000 Hz internally anymore? why is CA2600 better now, because of the reports, yes many reports...

so, it made the product better. isn't that what we want; a better product. the fixes, the bugs were evident. the fixes made quite easily by the way. some took a while.

there ares still many posts, on gearslutz they removed all, even the ashaming post of cherry audio employee. and that on a 'prof' site... strange, very strange...

and on KVR you can everyone an idiot, etc. stupid, break down every soft-synth in words, look at the threads... it is hard world here on KVR, but strangely when real arguments show up....

real arguments are perhaps have become strange in these days, of opinions.

EDIT: disclaimer, not cherry audio hater, no on the contrary, a very active user, also online, even in collebaretion for a total VM made number, a small contribution, but still..
do some beta testing, and make some FR's for a special kind of modules... talking with developers..
so, i am trying to make VM, in my own very small way, better.

i own VM, and a lot of modules, a lot. knee deep. so to say. i mention this because, else. we all know now.

but i am critical. longstanding issues not resolved. but work around it.

[WasteLand]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

you go fiber and you go divider! (both)

(dutch by the way?, it seems that dutch people, the language, not the country are very present on the VM fora... en op fb, en zo, en iets, ja brabo, en zo)

[Dark Fiber]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

you go fiber and you go divider! (both)

(dutch by the way?, it seems that dutch people, the language, not the country are very present on the VM fora... en op fb, en zo, en iets, ja brabo, en zo)

Dutch indeed. Brabo is the way to go
I'm no VM user, so not on that forum.
Oops, now we're really offtopic

[briefcasemanx]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

Sounds like no one should have any interest in believing anything you say about the aliasing. My guess is that it's not a problem for real users who actually make music and it's more academic, which is why you're afraid to give a demo of it.

Please though, yes, move on. Or if you're going to attack people, at the very least don't be scared to show off what you're talking about.

[WasteLand]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

you go fiber and you go divider! (both)

(dutch by the way?, it seems that dutch people, the language, not the country are very present on the VM fora... en op fb, en zo, en iets, ja brabo, en zo)

Dutch indeed. Brabo is the way to go
I'm no VM user, so not on that forum.
Oops, now we're really offtopic

on topic! cherry audio uses i believe the same framework for VM and it's VST plugins, a C++, how do you call it, based 'box', haha, and the modules, and the vst's are in a way modules are JAVA, i guess.

but that doesn't mean that JAVA is not right for DSP, it is always the programmer, the team, responsible for implementing the right routines, calls, looking how the filter works, and, etc.

so, dutch are still more critical??, dutch speaking people, in this case, because our gent-leman, o well..

i have the PolyMode module, sounds nice. can't compare, take it as is. also 64 bits processing, by the way. so. and the same price...

[WasteLand]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

Sounds like no one should have any interest in believing anything you say about the aliasing. My guess is that it's not a problem for real users who actually make music and it's more academic, which is why you're afraid to give a demo of it.

Please though, yes, move on. Or if you're going to attack people, at the very least don't be scared to show off what you're talking about.

did you didn't read my post, the bugs were big, filter was wrong, admitted by cherry audio, etc..
it wasn't academic, it wasn't aliasing alone, a lot of bug's, or wrong behavior. the fixed it. about CA2600...

so, real users already profited. again; vst's of cherry audio doesn't work anymore at 48.000 internal sample rate, because the SRC didn't work. they simply removed it. so no SRC anymore, and problems with that.

all reported by the same 'academic'. and all fixed, because, yes they had to be fixed. it's quite normal.

strange, strange, this is KVR, how people attack other soft-synths. and here.. i already mentioned it in my previous post.

and the only goal was, of the it all, i only supported it, on gearslutz even my posts were removed, no bad word in it. to make the products for cherry audio better.

if urs didn't listen to his customers, hell would brake loose... but strangely if cherry audio refuses to fix the last problem(s) of CA 2600 and all that still present in the synthvoice module, the VM counterpart. why not mentioned that, and on a forum.

read the reason+ threads...

it were all legitmate reports, not academic. and i am nó expert! and still can hear it, and judge if it is important or not. it is important, i make music, i was an academic...

[briefcasemanx]

Your posts are difficult to read.

You can post a sample of the aliasing too! If you show how much of a problem it is I'll agree with you!
Please post the same part sample solo'ed and in a mix. If you could either use a stock preset or post your preset file for the sound used, that would be great too.

Thanks in advance.

[gentleclockdivider]

Your posts are difficult to read.

You can post a sample of the aliasing too! If you show how much of a problem it is I'll agree with you!
Please post the same part sample solo'ed and in a mix. If you could either use a stock preset or post your preset file for the sound used, that would be great too.

Thanks in advance.

https://forums.cherryaudio.com/viewtopi ... =39&t=1291

Cherry audio 2600, then talmod (superclean )
Pitch modulating a synced saw
https://app.box.com/s/2mhic16yb6le61srjk27b9p52tqpou3t

[briefcasemanx]

That's cool can I get an example for Polymode since that's what this thread is about (also an example in a mix). Thanks.

[Dark Fiber]

I have zero interest in proving anything to you. You were the one with no respect for people that have issues with aliasing synths, remember? Your point of view is clear to all, so is mine. Time to move on!

Sounds like no one should have any interest in believing anything you say about the aliasing. My guess is that it's not a problem for real users who actually make music and it's more academic, which is why you're afraid to give a demo of it.

Please though, yes, move on. Or if you're going to attack people, at the very least don't be scared to show off what you're talking about.

Guess along. Make any assumption you want. You're just very intolerant and that's your problem

Show me your big hit, you music maker. I'm really curious!

[wwjd]

Hey! Remember when they released POLYMODE ?? Yeah, that was cool.

Anyone using and playing with this synth? I find the presets, tweaking, programming and playing very fun.

polymode.jpg

[gentleclockdivider]

That's cool can I get an example for Polymode since that's what this thread is about (also an example in a mix). Thanks.

You wanted proof of aliasing , now that you can not unhear it you come up with this lame excuse
And wtf do you think people don't make music when they point out flaws in an intrument , it's not that black and white .
I make music but I also love the dsp side of things, you've got verry narrow mindset
Anyway , back on topic ..CA polymoog is a nice sounding instrument ( thank god they didn't implement osc sync on this one )