Adding "Grit" or "Rasp" to Vocals - any vst plugin suggestions appreciated
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- KVRist
- 287 posts since 15 May, 2005
I'm returning to home recording after over a decade away and am having to replace all my old 32 bit plugins with 64 bit ones. I am so out of touch with what is around I am finding it overwhelming!
I've done a lot of searching about replacement instruments but am just starting to explore effects.
I have a clean sounding voice and prefer it to have a bit more character for many of the songs I do. I used to use Blockfish compressor which had a useful control for dialling in some grit/rasp/distortion - I'm not sure how to describe what I am looking for, just not clean.
There seem to be saturators, compressors, distortion plugins and I don't really know where to start!
I preferably, want something free or costing very little.
I hope that makes some sort of sense.
Any suggestions to get me started would be really appreciated.
Thanks in anticipation
I've done a lot of searching about replacement instruments but am just starting to explore effects.
I have a clean sounding voice and prefer it to have a bit more character for many of the songs I do. I used to use Blockfish compressor which had a useful control for dialling in some grit/rasp/distortion - I'm not sure how to describe what I am looking for, just not clean.
There seem to be saturators, compressors, distortion plugins and I don't really know where to start!
I preferably, want something free or costing very little.
I hope that makes some sort of sense.
Any suggestions to get me started would be really appreciated.
Thanks in anticipation
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 14 May, 2008
Well, if you're looking for affordable, you can't go wrong with Klanghelm's SDRR:
https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR.html
(While you're there, you might as well buy their DC8C compressor, which is incredibly versatile.)
If you have more to spend, Fabfilter's Saturn 2 is probably the only saturation tool you'll ever need, if you take your time to master it:
https://www.fabfilter.com/products/satu ... on-plug-in
https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR.html
(While you're there, you might as well buy their DC8C compressor, which is incredibly versatile.)
If you have more to spend, Fabfilter's Saturn 2 is probably the only saturation tool you'll ever need, if you take your time to master it:
https://www.fabfilter.com/products/satu ... on-plug-in
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- KVRian
- 1294 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf
I’d say check out analog obsession and Airwindows
Lots of options there
https://www.patreon.com/analogobsession
Kabin could help, along with some of the others, check them out
http://www.airwindows.com/
Pop and smooth ?
I normally try a google search with the plug-in name, intention (vocal) and my preference gearknobs
Lots of options there
https://www.patreon.com/analogobsession
Kabin could help, along with some of the others, check them out
http://www.airwindows.com/
Pop and smooth ?
I normally try a google search with the plug-in name, intention (vocal) and my preference gearknobs
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Danilo Villanova Danilo Villanova https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=418331
- KVRian
- 1205 posts since 30 Apr, 2018
Vocal grit and rasp is about the performance and can’t be faked IMO. Adding distortion to a clean vocal will not cut it.
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- KVRist
- 104 posts since 18 Apr, 2014
Waves CLA 76 blue
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 287 posts since 15 May, 2005
Thanks for the responses. Any further ones appreciated.
Rafael - I agree that I am not going to appear to have a great rock voice by using a plugin.
But, with the best performance of that type I can give, plus suitable plugin enhancement, I feel it has made my vocal more characterful.
Rafael - I agree that I am not going to appear to have a great rock voice by using a plugin.
But, with the best performance of that type I can give, plus suitable plugin enhancement, I feel it has made my vocal more characterful.
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Scarlet Pumpernickel Scarlet Pumpernickel https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=402106
- KVRist
- 266 posts since 30 Jul, 2017
I like Waves Kramer Tape for this. It combines tube distortion of its preamp stage with the tape (over)saturation, making the sound more complex (to my ears). Downside: it's not phase linear so you have to keep this in mind when using in parallel.
- KVRAF
- 1904 posts since 14 Jul, 2018
thats digitalfishphones which is sasha eversmeier who was at u-he
maybe you can find some blockfish heritage in presswerk, satin or uhbik
https://u-he.com/products/presswerk/
https://u-he.com/products/satin/
https://u-he.com/products/uhbik/
as within a compressor this sounds a little bit like steppy/aliasing loudness levelinggrit/rasp/distortion
imho the waves bss dpr402 has this with more extreme settings (very fast release)
i.e.: not well smoothed envelopes
https://www.waves.com/plugins/bss-dpr-4 ... 2-overview
others too...
- KVRAF
- 44252 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Assuming your DAW can't do it, get a 32 to 64 bit bridge and use Blockfish.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
- KVRAF
- 4587 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
Seems like that's the case. There was a discussion about it on VI-Control some time ago, and there were some options, but the results were just not usable for main vocals (unless some experimental thing is in order--or metal or hardcore, maybe?).Danilo Villanova wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:29 pm Vocal grit and rasp is about the performance and can’t be faked IMO. Adding distortion to a clean vocal will not cut it.
Edit: here is the thread: https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... st-4616251
Edit, Part Deux: here is another one: https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... st-4699748
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- KVRAF
- 44252 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
