When electronic music sounded new, like the future... what went wrong!

[vurt]

Sometimes it's just a new version of old composers composing symphonies with elements borrowed from older local folk melodies

that's a good point (ignoring classical, as that's not the period being touted as awesome...)
people want new never done before stuff now, and the beatles were mentioned earlier...
what exactly did they do that hadn't been done by others before?

other than taking things from disparate influences and bringing them together?

people talk about flanging in tapes, no, cage et al had done that.
sampling? no, musique concrete did that...
and so on.

also, the early stuff was pants and the later stuff, about 50/50 between great tracks and filler

there has never been a better time than now for music and music lovers, why? because right now you have all the music that's gone before available, are you telling me, you think you'll I've exhausted all the good? do you actually think you have ever even heard more than a small slice of what there is? piss off!

Hey hey I'm with you,miss thang

i did say you didn't have to be pissing off (see the post directly after the one you quoted,)

[vurt]

lou reed called it music, it has none of the qualities listed as the definition of music posted earlier.

[vurt]

and yes, i own and listen to that.
and the die krupps version too.

[vurt]

Have you been in hibernation for the past 45 years?

Sorry, that never did much for me. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols and Pink Flag both sounded far more like the future to my ears, just a year later. JMJ was just more of the same, like Tubular Bells or Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Centre of the Earth and King Arthur albums, all of which predate Oxygene by several years and none of which sounded like the future.

i always found him a bit boring, but at the time oxygene was released i was still stuck in a small town, with very little access to anything new outside of the charts, being too young to be allowed to go to the city.
i really wanted to like it, because i loved the idea of synths!
they sounded like the future of music, at least that's what tomorrow's world would tell us...
even now, when the pubs were open, the couple that still have their jukeboxes (why do people want pubs with no music, but a big f**king telly showing sport or a friend's dvd???)still all have the same rock music that was on them when i got a bit older and was drinking as most young teens do!!
all the live music is bands that sound like led zep, although there's one friends band who are more beefheart, then a few low rent oasis type bands.
no electronic music at all!

ive got in touch with old friends since returning home, a few of them when ive mentioned i play with electronic instruments have asked "so the machine makes the music?" type nonsense
yeah, here's the machine, there's some cables, now press play fucknuts

[vurt]

that went on longer than expected!
but i still can't enjoy jarre. visually, live, it's good for a few mins, till you realise it's just big dancing robot insects, there's no story involved, so it's not much of a spectacular thing once you've seen them for a minute or two

sorry jean (yup, we know you lurk )

[SteveWZ]

So as yet another emulation of a 35 year old synths drives the KVR forums crazy, I was reminiscing about when electronic music sounded new, like the future...

Now we seem to try so hard to look and sound like the past...

Is there nothing left to do with synthesis other than tiny incremental improvements in copying something that already been done? Analogue, FM, Samples, PM, WT, Granular.

Is that it, are we done?

To me, it doesn't matter if some music sounds new or old.
The only thing that matter is if its good.
If it grabs my attention because its well done, then its worth a listen.

[vurt]

So as yet another emulation of a 35 year old synths drives the KVR forums crazy, I was reminiscing about when electronic music sounded new, like the future...

Now we seem to try so hard to look and sound like the past...

Is there nothing left to do with synthesis other than tiny incremental improvements in copying something that already been done? Analogue, FM, Samples, PM, WT, Granular.

Is that it, are we done?

To me, it doesn't matter if some music sounds new or old.
The only thing that matter is if its good.
If it grabs my attention because its well done, then its worth a listen.

damn!
how many pages did it take for someone to nail it! ?

bang on

[vurt]

doesn't sound futuristic but is pretty awesome (not really electronic but im wasted)

[Passing Bye]

If past music tried to sound like future and we sound the same today, than they nailed the sound of future and you are in it, enjoy or invent new future sound.

[Dasheesh]

If past music tried to sound like future and we sound the same today, than they nailed the sound of future and you are in it, enjoy or invent new future sound.

If you pay for it, they will make it. plain and simple.

[dayjob]

The Autechre, Clark, and Ochre tracks are objectively distinct from each other sonically (new tracks to me). I only liked the Ochre one, though, to put on my playlist (I do like other Autechre stuff). Didn't know about Ian Boddy and Trifonic--added to my playlist--cool stuff. New-to-me sounds in that Shpongle track (but not grooving with me--I like Star Shpongled Banner-Remastered, though).

Ok, the first one on your list "Autechre". I just listened to "Autechre - 1 1 is".

Did I miss something ?

lol. they've been at it for like 30 years. have 100s of songs and numerous albums and eps and you listen to one song and thing you've heard them?

imo autechre is best experienced (for new listeners) by listening to their releases in order. like spend a month with each one.

regardless.. if your ears aren't used to listening to things that are a bit out of the mainstream or a bit experimental then a lot of music is just going to sound off or wrong to you. so.. go backwards and catch up on the past that you seem to have missed. there are lot's of things to discover if you've not crossed paths with autechre by 2021.

good luck or stop listening and stop paying attention and fold up in a cave somewhere and quit complaining.

[HunterKiller]

Have you been in hibernation for the past 45 years?

Sorry, that never did much for me. Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols and Pink Flag both sounded far more like the future to my ears, just a year later. JMJ was just more of the same, like Tubular Bells or Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Centre of the Earth and King Arthur albums, all of which predate Oxygene by several years and none of which sounded like the future.

Pffftt...

[melomood]

Sometimes it's just a new version of old composers composing symphonies with elements borrowed from older local folk melodies

that's a good point (ignoring classical, as that's not the period being touted as awesome...)
people want new never done before stuff now, and the beatles were mentioned earlier...
what exactly did they do that hadn't been done by others before?

other than taking things from disparate influences and bringing them together?

people talk about flanging in tapes, no, cage et al had done that.
sampling? no, musique concrete did that...
and so on.

also, the early stuff was pants and the later stuff, about 50/50 between great tracks and filler

there has never been a better time than now for music and music lovers, why? because right now you have all the music that's gone before available, are you telling me, you think you'll I've exhausted all the good? do you actually think you have ever even heard more than a small slice of what there is? piss off!

Hey hey I'm with you,miss thang

i did say you didn't have to be pissing off (see the post directly after the one you quoted,)

[Passing Bye]

If past music tried to sound like future and we sound the same today, than they nailed the sound of future and you are in it, enjoy or invent new future sound.

If you pay for it, they will make it. plain and simple.

Yeah, there was money in futuristic sound back than, now they just follow steep and generic trend with their money, I meen record labels that brainwash people on daily basis.

[BONES]

lou reed called it music, it has none of the qualities listed as the definition of music posted earlier.

I saw him perform the album live at the Sydney Opera House. We sat two rows behind his missus, Laurie Anderson. She seemed to enjoy it as much as we did. i.e. Not all that much, really. Still, you wouldn't miss something like that, would you?

ive got in touch with old friends since returning home, a few of them when ive mentioned i play with electronic instruments have asked "so the machine makes the music?" type nonsense
yeah, here's the machine, there's some cables, now press play fucknuts

That would be my fault because the machines definitely play 90% of what you hear from us on stage. So what? Machines are a lot less annoying than drummers.

there are lot's of things to discover if you've not crossed paths with autechre by 2021.

What I've heard of Autechre makes me think I don't want to discover any more, thanks. It's boring, like Severed Heads without the vocals or any energy. Not at all unlike the sort of shit I used to do before I learned how to write songs, things long ago assigned to the dustbin. Or like a shit version of these guys, who predate them by several years -