Studio One 5 Available Now (5.3 Out June 29th, 2021)

[dellboy]

At least with this update we start to see the direction that the DAW is heading.

Chasing Pro Tools tail.

[SLiC]

At least with this update we start to see the direction that the DAW is heading.

Chasing Pro Tools tail.

I think they have unashamedly and openly been going after the Pro Tools crowd for quite some time, I don't blame them!

[andypryce]

At least with this update we start to see the direction that the DAW is heading.

Chasing Pro Tools tail.

I still see them mostly going after Logic and Cubase type.
The sound variations and its integration with sample libraries like VSL is slap to Cubase and Logic showing how articulation switching management should have been.
Same with Arranger Track. It was already better but the latest update is a nice addition for working on song structure without hassle and breaking the flow.
I am guessing 5.5 release will bring updated Sampler and Impact and more scoring features like video track etc.

[dellboy]

I still see them mostly going after Logic and Cubase type.

True, but they are also chasing Pro-Tools.

[chk071]

How?

[andypryce]

I still see them mostly going after Logic and Cubase type.

True, but they are also chasing Pro-Tools.

Yes of course. Lots of previous features added to compete with Protools. Presonus treating Studio One as a ''best of'' with some cool ideas of their own mixed in.

[dellboy]

How?

Pretty obvious.

Did you never play "king of the castle" as a child ?

[LawrenceF]

For anyone like myself who's spent hours mapping key switches, this is potentially huge:

- Dynamic mapping for third- party instruments (via new API for developers)

[SLiC]

For anyone like myself who's spent hours mapping key switches, this is potentially huge:

- Dynamic mapping for third- party instruments (via new API for developers)

It will be, assuming the developers actually use the API, its all about uptake!
I assume their stuff (which is actually pretty good) like PreSonus Symphonic Orchestra will be update to take full advantage, and they seem to have some developers already using it, so fingers crossed....

[aMUSEd]

Version 5.2 Release Notes (March 9, 2021)

New features and improvements:

Recording and Mixing
o Increased buffer for Retrospective Recording
o Splitter available as a plug-in
o Micro view for Splitter in mixer
o Pan for multiple selected channels
o Improved tempo detection and approval
o External Instruments Transform

Arrangement and Editing
o Live arranging with Arranger Track
o New Sound Variations system and mapping editor
o Assign Sound Variations with right-click
o Control Sound Variations via remote commands and macros
o Save Sound Variations map with instrument preset
o Auto import and conversion option for existing key switch maps
o Dynamic mapping for third- party instruments (via new API for developers)
o Score View: drum notation support
o Score View: guitar tablature support
o Score View: support for multiple voices
o Improved velocity range selection in Note Editor
o “Smarter” Arrow Tool behavior in Piano View

Live Performance
o Arranger Track on Show Page
o Chord Track on Show Page
o Automatic Patch changes on Arranger Sections
o Alternative playback modes for Arranger Sections
o Live arranging with Arranger Track
o Updated Performance View with new pages for Arranger Sections and Patches
o Show control from Studio One Remote

PreSonus Sphere
o Access Workspaces from Browser
o Upload and download via drag & drop for selected file types

General
o Compatibility with Apple Silicon based Macs (using Rosetta 2)
o Improved ATOM SQ integration
o FaderPort integration improvements
o Studio One Remote 1.6 update
o MIDI bank change UI improvements
o Safety and recovery options
o Full-screen mode for Windows

New commands

Arranger
o Stop at End of Bar
o Stop at End of Section
o Set Sync Mode 1 Bar
o Set Sync Mode 2 Bars
o Set Sync Mode 4 Bars
o Set Sync Mode End
o Set Sync Mode Off
o Goto Section 1..16

Audio
o New Clip Version
o Separate Shared Copies

Event
o Separate Shared Copies
o Convert Keyswitches to Sound Variations

Edit
o Show Tracks with Events

File
o Open with Options

Score
o Double at Interval
o Quantize to Notation
o Rebuild Score
o Send to Voice 1
o Send to Voice 2
o Send to Voice 3
o Send to Voice 4

Show
o Set Section Playback Mode Continue
o Set Section Playback Mode Loop
o Set Section Playback Mode Loop and Continue
o Set Section Playback Mode Loop and Skip
o Set Section Playback Mode Stop at End
o Toggle Section Playback Mode Loop / Continue

Sound Variation
o Apply Variation 1..20
o Find and Apply Variation
Track
o Unpack Selected Layers to Tracks

View
o Fullscreen

The following issues have been fixed:
● [macOS High Sierra] Crash on loading certain songs
● [macOS] CPU spikes when using "CharacterSaw" in MaiTai or changing the "Pre"
parameter value in Room Reverb on M1 driven Macs
● [FaderPort 8/16] Control Link: autofill mappings are overwritten by static mappings
● [Faderport 8/16] Track visibility with Studio One is not synced
● [Score Editor] Wrong playback for tremolos on 8th notes or shorter
● [Sample One XT] Potential crash while adjusting sample boundaries
● Moving events in nested folders don’t display correctly
● Swing notes not been applied correctly in the pattern editor
● "Layers follow events" resets when duplicating track
● Preview in song tempo only works with first loop
● Show Page not changing presets in certain situations
● “Bounce selection” from bar 1 w/ external instrument inaccurate
● Vienna Ensemble load time regression
● Removing plug-ins from AUX channels won’t reset latency
● Failure to import very long MP3 files
● Preview in song tempo only works with first loop
● Sends are duplicated when recalling track with side chain
● Changing time signature not working for Scratch Pads
● VU Meter shows clip before 0 dbfs
● Quantize issues with late and early 16ths
● Multi-outs saved in a Instrument+FX preset or Musicloop are not recalled correctly

Why are they still ignoring the limitation with MPE?

[aMUSEd]

Version 5.2 Release Notes (March 9, 2021)

New features and improvements:

Recording and Mixing
o Increased buffer for Retrospective Recording
o Splitter available as a plug-in
o Micro view for Splitter in mixer
o Pan for multiple selected channels
o Improved tempo detection and approval
o External Instruments Transform

Arrangement and Editing
o Live arranging with Arranger Track
o New Sound Variations system and mapping editor
o Assign Sound Variations with right-click
o Control Sound Variations via remote commands and macros
o Save Sound Variations map with instrument preset
o Auto import and conversion option for existing key switch maps
o Dynamic mapping for third- party instruments (via new API for developers)
o Score View: drum notation support
o Score View: guitar tablature support
o Score View: support for multiple voices
o Improved velocity range selection in Note Editor
o “Smarter” Arrow Tool behavior in Piano View

Live Performance
o Arranger Track on Show Page
o Chord Track on Show Page
o Automatic Patch changes on Arranger Sections
o Alternative playback modes for Arranger Sections
o Live arranging with Arranger Track
o Updated Performance View with new pages for Arranger Sections and Patches
o Show control from Studio One Remote

PreSonus Sphere
o Access Workspaces from Browser
o Upload and download via drag & drop for selected file types

General
o Compatibility with Apple Silicon based Macs (using Rosetta 2)
o Improved ATOM SQ integration
o FaderPort integration improvements
o Studio One Remote 1.6 update
o MIDI bank change UI improvements
o Safety and recovery options
o Full-screen mode for Windows

New commands

Arranger
o Stop at End of Bar
o Stop at End of Section
o Set Sync Mode 1 Bar
o Set Sync Mode 2 Bars
o Set Sync Mode 4 Bars
o Set Sync Mode End
o Set Sync Mode Off
o Goto Section 1..16

Audio
o New Clip Version
o Separate Shared Copies

Event
o Separate Shared Copies
o Convert Keyswitches to Sound Variations

Edit
o Show Tracks with Events

File
o Open with Options

Score
o Double at Interval
o Quantize to Notation
o Rebuild Score
o Send to Voice 1
o Send to Voice 2
o Send to Voice 3
o Send to Voice 4

Show
o Set Section Playback Mode Continue
o Set Section Playback Mode Loop
o Set Section Playback Mode Loop and Continue
o Set Section Playback Mode Loop and Skip
o Set Section Playback Mode Stop at End
o Toggle Section Playback Mode Loop / Continue

Sound Variation
o Apply Variation 1..20
o Find and Apply Variation
Track
o Unpack Selected Layers to Tracks

View
o Fullscreen

The following issues have been fixed:
● [macOS High Sierra] Crash on loading certain songs
● [macOS] CPU spikes when using "CharacterSaw" in MaiTai or changing the "Pre"
parameter value in Room Reverb on M1 driven Macs
● [FaderPort 8/16] Control Link: autofill mappings are overwritten by static mappings
● [Faderport 8/16] Track visibility with Studio One is not synced
● [Score Editor] Wrong playback for tremolos on 8th notes or shorter
● [Sample One XT] Potential crash while adjusting sample boundaries
● Moving events in nested folders don’t display correctly
● Swing notes not been applied correctly in the pattern editor
● "Layers follow events" resets when duplicating track
● Preview in song tempo only works with first loop
● Show Page not changing presets in certain situations
● “Bounce selection” from bar 1 w/ external instrument inaccurate
● Vienna Ensemble load time regression
● Removing plug-ins from AUX channels won’t reset latency
● Failure to import very long MP3 files
● Preview in song tempo only works with first loop
● Sends are duplicated when recalling track with side chain
● Changing time signature not working for Scratch Pads
● VU Meter shows clip before 0 dbfs
● Quantize issues with late and early 16ths
● Multi-outs saved in a Instrument+FX preset or Musicloop are not recalled correctly

Why are they still ignoring the limitation with MPE?

So in practice if I am using the VST3 of say Equator 2 or Plasmonic (neither of which have a VST2 version) how does S1 handle recording poly aftertouch, poly pitch bends, slides etc - or does it just ignore that data completely?

[chk071]

How?

Pretty obvious.

Did you never play "king of the castle" as a child ?

Let me rephrase my question as, obviously, you didn't quite understand it.

Which indicators do you see, regarding this new update, that they are "chasing Pro Tools"?

[wuworld]

I still see them mostly going after Logic and Cubase type.

True, but they are also chasing Pro-Tools.

I think it was 3.3 where they did the "Next Standard" campaign to get more PT customers. They trying to balance it out, but the music production market has made them more popular. This area is pretty much dominating the market right now vs other customer bases. If you don't think so, who are the one's demonstrating Studio One the most via youtube, and the Atom controllers? It is music producers.

[SLiC]

I still see them mostly going after Logic and Cubase type.

True, but they are also chasing Pro-Tools.

I think it was 3.3 where they did the "Next Standard" campaign to get more PT customers. They trying to balance it out, but the music production market has made them more popular. This area is pretty much dominating the market right now vs other customer bases. If you don't think so, who are the one's demonstrating Studio One the most via youtube, and the Atom controllers? It is music producers.

Yeh, they did a big campaign around that point, there were even videos for how to switch!
Since then I think they have gone for various niches to boost the user base, from bedroom producers, EDM guys (that step sequencer is really top of the game now, almost Elektron like with the little ATOM SQ) to live musicians...there is something for everyone

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

The 3.0 release cycle was all about getting Pro Tools users to switch. There was some of that in 4.x cycle with some improvements to group editing to work more like Pro Tools. I don’t see much of anything in 5.x that screams “Pro Tools feature” to me.

I’d still very much like dual pans built right into the channel mixer like Pro Tools but that’s one obvious PT feature the S1 team has ignored to date.