KVR Audio

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:30 pm

Oh, and before I forget it: There will be no subscription either.

XxEDxX · Post by **XxEDxX** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:33 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:26 pm How many times does it have to be repeated that the Steinberg reps said that there will be no subcription model with the new copy protection?

Until it got implemented and we'll see for sure

We all have fallen for companies that say so but do it the other way. It's Steinberg and they said they're still in the beginning with it.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:36 pm

Meh. They should just say nothing at all then, if anything they say is twisted around, or if there is absolutely pointless and stupid disbelief.

And I won't quote any rep here anymore either. So pointless. I'll just count this to the dozen of other threads where you just can't post or read anymore, because it's all just a stupid shit fest anyway. Way to fkn go, KVR Audio.

XxEDxX · Post by **XxEDxX** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:39 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:36 pm Meh. They should just say nothing at all then, if anything they say is twisted around, or if there is absolutely pointless and stupid disbelief.

And I won't quote any rep here anymore either. So pointless. I'll just count this to the dozen of other threads where you just can't post or read anymore, because it's all just a stupid shit fest anyway. Way to fkn go, KVR Audio.

How can you be offended by user discussions and their experiences? You take such a topic way to serious, Sheriff

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm

Because it's so super f**king dumb to still speculate, when there's even official info from several company reps.

"No... they will do everything different anyway...

"

Sam-U · Post by **Sam-U** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm

XxEDxX wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:33 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:26 pm How many times does it have to be repeated that the Steinberg reps said that there will be no subcription model with the new copy protection?
Until it got implemented and we'll see for sure We all have fallen for companies that say so but do it the other way. It's Steinberg and they said they're still in the beginning with it.

Sad but true

chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm Because it's so super f**king dumb to still speculate, when there's even official info from several company reps.

Because they said "they're aiming for it" or "it's the goal" to not introduce a subscription. This is not a "there will definitely 100% not be a subscription". And as we've seen the main concern was also online connection which has already been -in the same way- confirmed.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:44 pm

"Hey guys, Steinberg drops eLicenser!!"

Noone on the internet: "Yeeha! Finally!!!"
Everyone on the internet: "Boohoo...

From smoke into smother...

"

Oh boi.

Sam-U · Post by **Sam-U** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:45 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:44 pm "Hey guys, Steinberg drops eLicenser!!"

Noone on the internet: "Yeeha! Finally!!!"
Everyone on the internet: "Boohoo... From smoke into smother... "

Oh boi.

Confirmed: dongle didn't seem to be a problem then

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:46 pm

Sam-U wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm Because they said "they're aiming for it" or "it's the goal" to not introduce a subscription. This is not a "there will definitely 100% not be a subscription". And as we've seen the main concern was also online connection which has already been -in the same way- confirmed.

Did you even read the post from my link above?

Mathias Quellmann wrote:And again, this is not about forcing anyone into a subscription.

How much more definite do you need definite to be?

frizzbee · Post by **frizzbee** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:49 pm

Sam-U wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:45 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:44 pm "Hey guys, Steinberg drops eLicenser!!"

Noone on the internet: "Yeeha! Finally!!!"
Everyone on the internet: "Boohoo... From smoke into smother... "

Oh boi.
Confirmed: dongle didn't seem to be a problem then

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:50 pm

Sam-U wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:45 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:44 pm "Hey guys, Steinberg drops eLicenser!!"

Noone on the internet: "Yeeha! Finally!!!"
Everyone on the internet: "Boohoo... From smoke into smother... "

Oh boi.
Confirmed: dongle didn't seem to be a problem then

Everything is a problem on the internet.

mike_the_ranger · Post by **mike_the_ranger** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:02 pm

Just saying (without the intention of triggering certain very special users) "not to force anyone" does not mean there will be no subscription model. It only means there will likely be somewhat of an alternative for users of perpetual licenses too. If it still requires online connection (even just from time to time) I'd technically not call it subscription, but it's the same mechanism of asking for permission to use the software.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:07 pm

See that's why I'm done here. No matter what anyone says, it's all lies anyway.

Of course the final implementation could differ in details from what they say now. Things happen. But, it's not really what people claim here. A rep says "There won't be subscription", and the next person here says "I hope there won't be subscription...

". WTF man. I acted like that when I was 6 years old, and didn't believe someone. Not as a 50 or 60 year old music hobbyist, with obviously too much time at hand.

Anyway, for you, I will dig in the Steinberg forums again, and see if I can find a more definite statement. Which you probably will deny again, but, hey... it's not like I have anything better to do. *sigh*

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:10 pm

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/license- ... u=chakkman

Ed Doll wrote:The goal of this project is to replace the old license management system, not to introduce a subscription model replacing perpetual licenses.

It's just a goal though, so, I bet it will all be totally different once they implement the new system. Hah.

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:14 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:26 pm
alonl6 wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:29 pm If steinberg going with the subscription model
How many times does it have to be repeated that the Steinberg reps said that there will be no subcription model with the new copy protection?

This is just one post, there have been others from other reps who also said that there will be no subscription: https://forums.steinberg.net/t/license- ... 701418/129

Ok, now I have to believe companies on their word?

Finally the very good news from Steinberg!!!