Native Instruments and slow loading..
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 653 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
Hi,
Maschine, Battery, Kontakt, Komplete Control, Reaktor all taking almost half a minute to instantiate.
What is the reason behind this? Will it ever get faster?
Maschine, Battery, Kontakt, Komplete Control, Reaktor all taking almost half a minute to instantiate.
What is the reason behind this? Will it ever get faster?
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- KVRist
- 75 posts since 2 Jan, 2021
what OS/DAW?
have had problems with NI plugins all loading slowly in the past, too (Windows 10/Ableton)
i'd make myself a meal while waiting to load a project with even one NI plugin in it
things that helped me:
- moving content onto an SSD drive
- windows defender exceptions (especially for 3rd-party kontakt libraries)
- full reformat and re-install
in the end, it was the full reformat (at the OS-level) and re-install that fixed it for me
but also things for each individual plugin, like turning off "database hit count" (or something like that - will turn up in a search for slow loading)
have had problems with NI plugins all loading slowly in the past, too (Windows 10/Ableton)
i'd make myself a meal while waiting to load a project with even one NI plugin in it
things that helped me:
- moving content onto an SSD drive
- windows defender exceptions (especially for 3rd-party kontakt libraries)
- full reformat and re-install
in the end, it was the full reformat (at the OS-level) and re-install that fixed it for me
but also things for each individual plugin, like turning off "database hit count" (or something like that - will turn up in a search for slow loading)
- KVRAF
- 23103 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
You could also try turning off usage data tracking and see if it helps.
That said, depending on number of NI related products you have installed, loading Komplete Kontrol can be a bit longer (but they do have background database scanning/library updating going on now).
That said, depending on number of NI related products you have installed, loading Komplete Kontrol can be a bit longer (but they do have background database scanning/library updating going on now).
- Banned
- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Half a minute sounds too long IMO -- unless you are loading them first time. In addition to other suggestions on here, you could also try moving/removing some 3rd party VSTs. I recall I had some freebies from PB I had installed that slowed Kontakt loading significantly. I removed it as I never even used it.
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Gear & Setup: Windows 10, Dual Xeon, 32GB RAM, Cubase 10.5/9.5, NI Komplete Audio 6, NI Maschine, NI Jam, NI Kontakt
Gear & Setup: Windows 10, Dual Xeon, 32GB RAM, Cubase 10.5/9.5, NI Komplete Audio 6, NI Maschine, NI Jam, NI Kontakt
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- KVRAF
- 2797 posts since 26 Jul, 2015 from Philadelphia
Had the same problem on MacOS. It got to the point where instatiating an NI plugin took 2 minutes. Switching to Windows solved this.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 653 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions,
Mac Mojave.
Cubase, Live.
All libraries on external SSD.
It is the first instance that loads really slow. A second instance of the same plugin loads normal like any other plugin except Maschine which is not as long as the first instance but not instant either.
As I understand these plugins do a library check with the first instance which takes time and there is no way to turn that off?
Mac Mojave.
Cubase, Live.
All libraries on external SSD.
It is the first instance that loads really slow. A second instance of the same plugin loads normal like any other plugin except Maschine which is not as long as the first instance but not instant either.
As I understand these plugins do a library check with the first instance which takes time and there is no way to turn that off?
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- KVRAF
- 2797 posts since 26 Jul, 2015 from Philadelphia
Spent two years researching that problem. No solution. Once you get beyong a certain number of NI products, they become unusable on a Mac. Seems to be a license scan on first instantiation.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 17 Mar, 2021
I have the same problem on OSX 10.13.6
takes 2 minutes to open Maschine AAX in ProTools (2020.12 latest)
@mgw38
is there a way to delete/unregister some old librarys from the system?
is there a system file where thoses lybraries are listed?
takes 2 minutes to open Maschine AAX in ProTools (2020.12 latest)
@mgw38
is there a way to delete/unregister some old librarys from the system?
is there a system file where thoses lybraries are listed?
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
i use NO NI products and my EXT2 projects load lighting fast
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
its elementary. newer software, more code, more bloat, slower more sluggish daw performance
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
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- Banned
- 1780 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
like you said, it's most likely a native access issue. This software is notorious for these sorts of issues. My NI products dont launch at all if the internet is on because I changed providers and there's no solution to that problem either. I would recommend disconnecting and seeing if there's a difference
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
dont matter what you think, a fat lady is going to run slower than a thin one.
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
- KVRian
- 646 posts since 12 May, 2004