Become my friend, get Bitwig 8-Track for free :D
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- KVRian
- 705 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
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Yes.ls1xxx wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:23 pm Is this a free version like the alberton live lite that comes with midi keyboards?
- KVRist
- 413 posts since 29 Apr, 2019
Been trying out Bitwig demo on and off and omg. I am surprised it isn't more popular. It honestly feels like everything just works and works damn good and flows together. Not the prettiest of interfaces but it has a "it just works" feel. Reason gives me that as well but sacrifices some things what bitwig just takes up so well.
Then I opened FXGrid and my mind just fell out from how deep the rabbithole goes
Oh and it feels like they did a super great integration with the Maschine hardware as my Jam lit up, has transitional animations from different controls and works flawlessly. Ableton needs a script and even then it's scuffed and somewhat broken if done wrong
Then I opened FXGrid and my mind just fell out from how deep the rabbithole goes
Oh and it feels like they did a super great integration with the Maschine hardware as my Jam lit up, has transitional animations from different controls and works flawlessly. Ableton needs a script and even then it's scuffed and somewhat broken if done wrong
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
My chief problem with Bitwig is not the program but the licence. After one year its guaranteed to be out of date. Nothing particularly wrong with that, Cubase is the same and I always update that every year. Its the price of the yearly update that is way over the top. I could live with maybe $50 per year, but $129 is just too much.MuzikFreq wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:01 am Been trying out Bitwig demo on and off and omg. I am surprised it isn't more popular.
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Sure, but Cubase doesn't give you ANYTHING during that year, whereas with Bitwig you get 2-3 SUBSTANTIAL updates.dellboy wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:25 amCubase is the same and I always update that every year. Its the price of the yearly update that is way over the top. I could live with maybe $50 per year, but $129 is just too much.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Agreed, Cubase does not give much for the "upgrade". Its really more of a yearly subscription, but last year it cost $40 dollars or so in the May sale, and I can live with that.antic604 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:39 am
Sure, but Cubase doesn't give you ANYTHING during that year, whereas with Bitwig you get 2-3 SUBSTANTIAL updates.
But I have not seen anything in Bitwig "updates" for years that interests me .
I have been trying out Reaper with dual boot Linux and am surprised how well that works in Linux. Don't spread it around but I am beginning to think it is rather good. And the Reaper licence is great. Mint Linux is so good that I completely forget I am not in windows now.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Funny, because I tried Linux just this morning again and I just can't work with it... I'd have to spend days & days setting it up so that it doesn't suck when trying to do actions that 90% of DAWs do in the same, or very similar, way. And I too was on Linuxdellboy wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:12 pm...I have been trying out Reaper with dual boot Linux and am surprised how well that works in Linux. Don't spread it around but I am beginning to think it is rather good. And the Reaper licence is great. Mint Linux is so good that I completely forget I am not in windows now.
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- KVRAF
- 35679 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Perception can be very different, especially when it comes to ideologic things like Linux. 
I totally trust your (antic604) assessment though, considering my experiences with Linux and Open Source software, running it for over 8 years... especially audio was a complete mess back then. I maybe fiddled with it for a few weeks, and then became so frustrated with all the version 0.1 software, and things which just didn't work. Maybe it's a bit better now. I can't imagine anything groundbreaking though...
You have to be a bit of a masochist to mess with all that stuff.
I totally trust your (antic604) assessment though, considering my experiences with Linux and Open Source software, running it for over 8 years... especially audio was a complete mess back then. I maybe fiddled with it for a few weeks, and then became so frustrated with all the version 0.1 software, and things which just didn't work. Maybe it's a bit better now. I can't imagine anything groundbreaking though...
You have to be a bit of a masochist to mess with all that stuff.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Love Linux Mint, but for audio would rather use legacy version of either Win/macOS, much better support for both software and hardware.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
No, no! Linux is awesome and if I could install it as a primary system on my laptop I would, but I need Windows too... Bitwig runs awesome on Linux, there's limtited but sufficient selection of great plugins already, 90% of my other needs is covered. It's just Reaper I can't get along with, despite trying 10+ times and it's not Linux' fault either. It also "sucks" (for me!) on Windowschk071 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:24 pm Perception can be very different, especially when it comes to ideologic things like Linux.
I totally trust your (antic604) assessment though, considering my experiences with Linux and Open Source software, running it for over 8 years... especially audio was a complete mess back then. I maybe fiddled with it for a few weeks, and then became so frustrated with all the version 0.1 software, and things which just didn't work. Maybe it's a bit better now. I can't imagine anything groundbreaking though...
You have to be a bit of a masochist to mess with all that stuff.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
I had an SSD drive hanging around which i put in a USB C enclosure and installed Mint Linux on. I can either plug it in or not,and use Linux when I feel like it, or just boot windows. But when I am in Linux just browsing the web the experience is every bit as good as windows.
You then have two DAWs to choose between that work very well. Bitwig or Reaper. The big problem is not converting VSTs to Linux ".SO" format with LINVST , they often work fine, but its the licence issues. My Ilok dongle will not work in Linux. But the benefit of that is all the distraction of more "stuff" is largely gone for a while until you boot back into windows or mac.
You then have two DAWs to choose between that work very well. Bitwig or Reaper. The big problem is not converting VSTs to Linux ".SO" format with LINVST , they often work fine, but its the licence issues. My Ilok dongle will not work in Linux. But the benefit of that is all the distraction of more "stuff" is largely gone for a while until you boot back into windows or mac.
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- KVRAF
- 3227 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
I think Linux is fine for a DAW until you try to get WINDOWS VST to run on it , I have no luck . So I'm ok with Linux with Linux native stuff . I've never had good luck with running wine and Windows VSTs to run .
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- KVRAF
- 35679 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Not quite. You can get it with the recent issue of Computer Music though, and, AFAIK, it also goes with certain hardware purchases.
I bought the last issue of Computer Music for it, and then I realised I already have a license, which I even activated already...
I bought the last issue of Computer Music for it, and then I realised I already have a license, which I even activated already...