Plugin Boutique Scaler 2 available now!

[WatchTheGuitar]

It is absolutely nothing like the scale plugin in Ableton.

[spnc]

How do you use Scaler2? Does it make notes or do I need to add a note generator before?

I wonder, do you solely use Scaler2 to generate riffs and notes or do I need to add a note generator plugin beforehand in the Ableton chain to generate interesting melodies out of nothing?

I'm looking for the shortest route to generate melodies that will get me started instantly, with some randomness that still fits within a certain key. I have most M4L plugins but I'd rather say with a normal plugin (like the Quad Note Generator in Reason) to save time.

I mean if it is I must be really stupid because I can't seem to be able to generate any sound with it, even loading an instrument in DAW with it (before in the chain).

To me it looks more like a slightly more advanced sort of the Scale stock plugin in Ableton.

But it's missing the Midi generator/Sequencer I'm looking for, stuff like Max for live (eg. Ultimate Ztep Zequencer 2), or J74 Step sequence/Arpline, Audiomodern Riffer/Playbeat, Midi Madness, InstaChord/Captain Chord, HY-SEQ16/Collection2, etc... am I missing any?

For the melodic riff I need something simple enough yet:
- a bit advanced like polyrhythmic or with enough variations to get me started in my tracks with some inspiring sounds right from the start
- which can evolve over time with some random features... but somewhat keeping a certain degree of control on the randomness parameters
- being able to stay in a certain key and having the key transpose feature is a plus
- being able to export the Midi files generated

In the hardware world only the Polyend SEQ seems to be able to do what I'm looking for? But it's 1'200 EUR and out of stock. Or the NDLR from Conductive Labs? I only have a Keystep Pro but it's just a basic keyboard, far from all the needs mentioned above.

If you can help much appreciated.

[spnc]

How do you use Scaler2? Does it make notes or do I need to add a note generator before?

I use it almost exclusively for building chord progressions. I pick my key, then my scale and mess around until I come up with some progressions that I like, using the built-in inversion editing to help with the voicing and then use the drag export function to get the MIDI into the DAW, to use with my various patches.


Feeding in notes is optional, the only time I do it is if I've created a lead line and I want to find the closest matching scale so I can build some chords for it, since it has a detection mode (works for audio too, but haven't tried it personally). Normally I just press the pads or use the playback mode to listen to the progression I have made.

Okay thanks for the explanation.

[spnc]

It is absolutely nothing like the scale plugin in Ableton.

Thanks I'm gonna check this out.

[SHall1000]

I am having great fun using Audiomodern Riffer to randomly trigger Scaler cords which then feed into Venomode Phrasebox to generate melodies and riffs.

[spnc]

I am having great fun using Audiomodern Riffer to randomly trigger Scaler cords which then feed into Venomode Phrasebox to generate melodies and riffs.

Great! I also have Phrasebox. In which order you mean your chain?

Riffer > Scaler > Phrasebox in a single channel chain? Or using different Midi channels for each?

Thanks.

[SHall1000]

Single channel. But you could take separate feeds of each to trigger different parts. E.g a bass line from Riffer, a pad from Scaler and a lead from Phrasebox.