Aurora FM - New Win(32/64) VSTi FM synthesizer - Introductory pricing

[Ah_Dziz]

Gotta say, this thing sounds amazing and the developer is a really cool guy. The gui is fine after the five minutes it takes to see what does what (I'm not picky when it comes to guis but this one is just fine compared to some of the ones that people complain about constantly).

[Dasheesh]

yeah, I made the mistake of redownloading the demo and having a go at 40 voice 4* detune @ 4*oversampling, and now I'm wondering why everyone cannot do this? this is some fancy work.

[RyFi]

Gotta say, this thing sounds amazing and the developer is a really cool guy. The gui is fine after the five minutes it takes to see what does what (I'm not picky when it comes to guis but this one is just fine compared to some of the ones that people complain about constantly).

Being so kind and not even mentioning the issues that we're having with a couple of your hosts? Heh. Wow, what have I done to deserve this? Thank you kindly, man.

yeah, I made the mistake of redownloading the demo and having a go at 40 voice 4* detune @ 4*oversampling, and now I'm wondering why everyone cannot do this? this is some fancy work.

Thanks, man! Yeah, I put a huge chunk of work into the oversampling and performance improvements for this latest update. It's really great to know that's appreciated. Some of it was relatively low-hanging fruit and overdue (the addition of AVX support, which had its own share of issues but was still reasonably straight-forward and awesome bang-for-buck), some of it was about a month or more of meticulous optimizing and just finding places to shave a cycle or two off of everywhere I could. I've got things pretty dang close to the limit now. Of course there will probably always still be places where there's theoretically a tiny big more performance to be gained, but the diminishing returns for time spent vs. gains makes anything more pretty dang prohibitive now...

It's almost kind of surreal to be able to run 40 or more voices at 4x oversampling on a patch with lots of modulation on an 8-year old CPU when you know how much goddamn number-crunching is actually happening! It really is amazing how wickedly powerful CPU's started getting around a decade ago. (Something to ponder when you're waiting 10 seconds for a simple text website to load, heh ).

[Ah_Dziz]

The cpu use is crazy low. Loving it. Is there any chance that you could add audio input as an fm source? So I guess an fx version? I love beating up oscillators with drumloops and such. I never saw anyone else mention it in this thread so I suppose it might be lots of work for zero gain (I have no idea how hard it would be to implement this).
Anyway I'll get that info to you in a bit ryfi.

[RyFi]

The cpu use is crazy low. Loving it.

Is there any chance that you could add audio input as an fm source? So I guess an fx version? I love beating up oscillators with drumloops and such. I never saw anyone else mention it in this thread so I suppose it might be lots of work for zero gain (I have no idea how hard it would be to implement this).
Anyway I'll get that info to you in a bit ryfi.

That's something you've got me thinking about, I'll admit, but at present it's not something that I can definitively commit to. I hope that's understandable. I really don't know where things are going with my synth or my life right now, and it's what I'm trying to figure out....

Sorry I can't be any more receptive than that.

[Ah_Dziz]

all good. obviously people aren't clamoring for that feature.

[Dasheesh]

this is how you do an indie folks. while others are telling me 4* over sampling cannot be done, pieces like this and arcsyn are standard 4* times over sampling and fixed architecture that shouldn't change. bravo.

[Aloysius]

Where are the presets? I think I remember I used to click on the INIT box to see them. Windows 10. Thanks.

[Dasheesh]

Where are the presets? I think I remember I used to click on the INIT box to see them. Windows 10. Thanks.

yeah, it is a little wonky. if you hit the preset box it will pull up a list of presets, but clicking on the preset does not always go to the preset. you can hit the preset box and file down through all the presets tho.

[Dasheesh]

basically, the preset manager is not "set", but the instrument is quality.

[Aloysius]

Thanks. I'll give it a go.

[Aloysius]

Got it working now. Thanks Dasheesh.

[Dasheesh]

it's probably the one thing that can, and should be worked with about this piece, but GUIs and the problem GUIs bring are the scourge of vsti designers. i like that he put the work into the important stuff first. the preset manger might be a JOB for him, but the instrument is already set in stone for the most part, and sounds great.

[RyFi]

this is how you do an indie folks. while others are telling me 4* over sampling cannot be done, pieces like this and arcsyn are standard 4* times over sampling and fixed architecture that shouldn't change. bravo.

Even though I really appreciate the implications, I also need to be perfectly fair: my oscillators are VERY lean and efficient, and that's possible because they're not band-limited.

Other synths with properly band-limited complex oscillators, even if they have fewer than the 6 that mine has, probably still require a lot more processing resources for at least the waveform generation part of their synth, and that may account for why they have fewer resources available for oversampling. (But then oversampling isn't as useful on a synth that's already properly band-limited to begin with, either...) Plus, if you're talking subtractive synths, then they'll inherently need more processing for the filters too, which my FM synth doesn't have.

I'm definitely not a DSP guru, and I don't want to give the false impression that my synth is doing anything extraordinary performance-wise. (I'm happy to be considered reasonably competent, that's all. )

[Dasheesh]

ya good. many classical fm synths don"t use a filter. FM can be considered additive. your oscillators are whats turning me on. they sound very detailed. the preset manager will need work tho.