KVR Audio

thraikos · Post by **thraikos** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:52 am

When I isolate a single note of those sounds I notice that they are really punchy without hearing a hitting transient and also very stable in tone. I tried combinations of FM synthesis and slap delay effects but nothing seems to work. Anybody familiar with this type of sounds?
https://youtu.be/uGhKqb2Ow3E
0:40

CHOOS · Post by **CHOOS** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:56 pm

Try to post links and time stamps of what you're on about to make sure we know what you mean.

thraikos · Post by **thraikos** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:50 pm

I wonder if someone knows how to remake the synth bass that starts in 0:40

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:48 am

I would help you if I could. Choos knows all about basses. I know him as a great fan of basses of all sorts but he's busy atm. He'll be back, though.

I can only guess that this will involve the right settings for the right (possibly mix/volume automated) compressors, a specific kind of distortion and lots of drive added, all set up just below the threshold to prevent any clipping. We need to avoid clipping with basses when we boost them or otherwise they will sound very crappy!
Other than that I believe the bass sound is based on a saw and there's no transient involved here. FM won't do the trick in my opinion. It's also not a kick bass, I think, because there is no transient, just a bass, but even here I might take a wrong guess and I don't want to teach the wrong stuff. Sorry 'bout that! Let's wait and see...

thraikos · Post by **thraikos** » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:14 pm

Thank you for your reply. Let me know what you mean about '' specific kind of distortion''. Do you have something specific in your mind?

CHOOS · Post by **CHOOS** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:59 pm

This is pretty close. bit of a slow video because I'm really tired.
https://vimeo.com/538187222

BA - Jax Jones - Breathe.zip

CHOOS · Post by **CHOOS** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:07 pm

Oh and not sure if I mentioned it in the video but you wanna play these notes over and over till you get a sample that sounds just right because every time it differs somewhat and then use just that sample for that note in your song

juno987654321 · Post by **juno987654321** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:51 am

Very nice approach with a close-to-original concrete result!

The only thing I would add here is a little side note, i. e. that you wouldn't necessarily HAVE TO use FM here, not even on osc1 only.
I think you might actually get the same effects of adding the right harmonics to all oscs with the right kind of distortion(s) (+ maybe saturation filters + EQing). This might also at least reduce any keytracking issues. However, Vital and other synths only allow for one instance of distortion, so you are fairly limited and the above approach led to good results while consequently staying with the limitations Vital has to offer. That's a good thing!

In total you could see that there simply IS NO transient, just a bit of filter movement because it's not a kick bass...

thraikos · Post by **thraikos** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:42 pm

CHOOS you sound really tired thank you for your time. Its pretty close.
What about that?
3:07
https://youtu.be/XD9h53oEVG8
Same approach?

CHOOS · Post by **CHOOS** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:44 pm

This one is simply 2 saws. 2nd one one octave higher, a lowpass filter and some reverb

thraikos · Post by **thraikos** » Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:43 pm

That's good enough. Thank you so much for your time!!

Recreate Ben Delay-I never felt so right and the drop of Jax Jones-Breathe