KVR Audio

joku · Post by **joku** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:58 pm

So, once the level goes above some threshold, the output mutes for some time. I would just use this to let myself know clearly that I'm above 0db, without looking. It could just as well make a beep or something.

I tried a waveshaper that turns all samples above a threshold to zero, but that's not noticeable in every situation.

joku · Post by **joku** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:02 pm

I guess the topic should have been "audible clipping indicator", since that's what I'm after.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:04 pm

FabFilter Pro-G has a "Ducking" mode that does exactly that, so does Logic's native "Noise Gate" gate plugin.
I don't have others, but maybe check your stock Gate or any gates you might have.

Then there's Nugen SigMod which has a "fuse" (if signal goes above X it mutes).

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:05 pm

Unfiltered Audio's G8 has "reject" outputs that would do exactly this. You could set a long release time to make short "overs" more audible.

TIMT · Post by **TIMT** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:02 pm

Try and find a link for Cerberus Audio ICE9. It does exactly this

escalona · Post by **escalona** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:44 pm

Cerberus Audio Ice9 Automute

joku · Post by **joku** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:19 pm

hi, thanks for the replies, gave me a general direction to look for. found ice9 automute, and it worked for a while, then muted my audio forever :/

melomood · Post by **melomood** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:24 pm

Invert the gate in Live. Sometimes I'll run 2 synths/fx parallel, one with gate,one with inverted gate to hear what I can get from it

joku · Post by **joku** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:32 pm

problem solved! my daw (renoise) built-in gate has a "duck" option that does exactly this.

thanks all.

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:33 pm

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Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:08 pm

Doesn't expander increase gain over threshold, thus, increasing dynamic range?
A "ducker" mutes over threshold. Hypothetically, absolute silence is "more dynamic range" but practically, you chop off what could've been over the threshold, so you kind of reduce dynamic range?

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:09 pm

TIMT · Post by **TIMT** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:11 pm

joku wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:19 pm hi, thanks for the replies, gave me a general direction to look for. found ice9 automute, and it worked for a while, then muted my audio forever :/

You need to click the now blown fuse in the middle and it resets the plugin

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:34 pm

codec_spurt wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:09 pm So, to draw the distinction further, if we take the statement by iZotope I quoted above as gospel -

An expander increases the dynamic range of a signal by lowering the level of audio material that is below a set threshold.

We could extrapolate this statement to be correct:

A ducker increases the dynamic range of a signal by lowering the level of audio material that is above a set threshold.

Would that be a fair assumption to make? If you were forced, gun to head, to make a distinction?

Then again, where is the line abstracted down in software knobs?

As above, so below.

One man's "-01" on the scale is the same as another man's "+01", I guess. Right?

Because we can take things that are just below, or just above that signal point, and raise or lower them further, respectively, interdependently, or should that rather be dependently?

When I look up the meaning of both of those words, the semantic explanation seems to be the same thing.

I think, therefore I am confused!

i think this explains it.
I guess if "gate" expands the dynamic range (if you consider -infinity dB FS like, infinite dynamic range) so does the ducker

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:49 pm

anything opposite of a gate?