2021: A Year in Gear (What You've Bought or Want to Buy in 2021)

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KVRAF
12700 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Post Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:06 pm

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KVRAF
6519 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Post Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:21 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:06 pm
elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:59 am
I'm gonna give it a try.

It's too bad they only come in red because I really would like to keep the sizes as separate colors, but I'm curious if these will work well compared to a multi.

They're a "boutique" Seattle company.

@Shabdahbriah, if they're not legit, please flip em' off the next time you pass by.
One thing to keep in mind is that cables wear out. Mults, not so much. I mean they do, but it takes longer. There's no point in trying to fix cables, you just throw them away. Depending on the design, mults are easier to fix. The more junk that's in a cable, e.g., an embedded jack, the lower the expected life of the cable will be.

The other reason that I don't like stackables is if you want to move the cable on the bottom, you have to move the cable on the top as well. It's minor, but I'm sensitive to being annoyed.
:hihi: Sensitive to being annoyed is definitely relatable!

I have 1 multi right now. I don't truly have a preference right now, except that I don't like the way multis spread out the wires, but how much that matters is something I don't know yet.

These $15 stackables should give me a good idea. I'm only using it on just Strega (that's not here yet) until 0-Coast+Ctrl come back in stock and then I imagine I'll have developed a preference.

KVRAF
1639 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Post Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:29 pm

I use these little split-cable things: https://polarnoise.com/product/eurorack ... -splitter/

They're cheap and can be combined with another patch cable to get the length you need.

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KVRAF
5718 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:30 pm

elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:47 am
Any thoughts on these (5 for $15)? https://afterlateraudio.com/product/sta ... cable-red/
They look identical to the Modular Addict stacking cables. I have several of them and they're useful, but: the sleeve of the plugs at each end aren't connected through the entire cable. Which means they are not good when connecting devices that have different PSUs, unless there's already a ground connection between them. But they're generally fine for patching within a single device.

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KVRAF
6519 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Post Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:18 pm

foosnark wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:30 pm
elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:47 am
Any thoughts on these (5 for $15)? https://afterlateraudio.com/product/sta ... cable-red/
They look identical to the Modular Addict stacking cables. I have several of them and they're useful, but: the sleeve of the plugs at each end aren't connected through the entire cable. Which means they are not good when connecting devices that have different PSUs, unless there's already a ground connection between them. But they're generally fine for patching within a single device.
Is this the big difference between the Tip Top ones?

Once I get the 0-Coast/Ctrl I imagine it could be problematic, but since the cables are on the way I'll have to put them to use.

I think I read back that justin3am was using a Cioks DC7 for his. I've got the Eventide PowerMax (similar but minus 3 variable ports) along with the Cioks4 so hopefully, I can get them up running the same without ground issues.

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KVRAF
6519 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Post Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:22 pm

imrae wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:29 pm
I use these little split-cable things: https://polarnoise.com/product/eurorack ... -splitter/

They're cheap and can be combined with another patch cable to get the length you need.
I'm gonna bookmark this one. On Amazon, they were selling them x1 for the same price as 3 there. I'd just like to get over that over €60 for free worldwide shipping (which scarily is not hard to do for just cables :scared: )

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KVRAF
5718 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:24 am

elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:18 pm
Is this the big difference between the Tip Top ones?
The TipTop ones also have thicker and somewhat stiffer cables, and shorter plugs/jacks.

Some people are afraid of this particular design because they think the height provides so much leverage it could damage jacks... but I haven't heard a single case of anyone really having that problem. You should never stack more than two deep in the same socket anyway, with any kind of stacking cable (you can always chain from the other end instead).

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addled muppet weed
77713 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:31 am

koma do some attenuator cables that come in handy, save on module space for any set and forget attenuation.
leaving the knobs for stuff you might want to change elsewhere in a patch :)

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KVRAF
11366 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:47 am

foosnark wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:24 am
Some people are afraid of this particular design because they think the height provides so much leverage it could damage jacks... but I haven't heard a single case of anyone really having that problem. You should never stack more than two deep in the same socket anyway, with any kind of stacking cable (you can always chain from the other end instead).
I've had a few jacks break due to jack nuts being over-tightened during assembly. I've never had a jack break because of cable leverage, even after my cat knocked my Shared System off it's shelf and it fell 4 feet to the floor, landing on it's face, while still patched. I've forgotten that long cables were connected and tripped over them while still connected. In my experience, the connector on the cable will break before the jack will. Thank goodness.

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KVRAF
11366 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:54 am

elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:18 pm
I think I read back that justin3am was using a Cioks DC7 for his. I've got the Eventide PowerMax (similar but minus 3 variable ports) along with the Cioks4 so hopefully, I can get them up running the same without ground issues.
You will need to switch the outputs to 15v for Make Noise devices and use the type 2 (red) flex cable. https://cioks.com/products/flex-cables-type-2/

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KVRAF
3735 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:10 pm

Apparently I needed moar envelopes: A-Envelope from Velectronic.

https://velectronic.net/a-envelope

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KVRian
880 posts since 1 Apr, 2005

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:35 pm

Lovely Knurlies like knobs, me thinks.

KVRAF
1639 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Post Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:42 pm

Oh wow that is pretty!

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Beware the Quoth
29394 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:58 am

vurt wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:31 am
koma do some attenuator cables that come in handy, save on module space for any set and forget attenuation.
leaving the knobs for stuff you might want to change elsewhere in a patch :)
There's also the RYO Airtenuators.
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KVRAF
5718 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:51 am

pekbro wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:10 pm
Apparently I needed moar envelopes: A-Envelope from Velectronic.
That's a sharp looking module. Nice to see a Euro module that uses encoders with LED rings, that's the right way to do it if you can't go knob-per-function.

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