Softube Model 84 (Juno 106)

[simmo75]

Honestly, what makes the Softube version better than the Cherry Audio $29 version?

There are already some posts comparing them earlier in this thread. In a nutshell, Cherry’s version is great value for the price, but Softube’s is a much more convincing emulation.

Thanks mate.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I was playing around with the Softube version last night and it's definitely got more low-end than the others. I won't speak to how accurate that is to the hardware one way or the other, but when I compared to the Roland 106/60 and TAL U-No-LX, it felt like the Softube [comparatively] had a low shelf boost. Not saying that's what it's actually doing, but just something I heard.

It's certainly a fine plugin. I'm just not sure it's any more or less accurate than the others, and they can all get pretty close. My least favorites are probably the Roland 106/60. They can all get close, but the filter resonance and PWM just don't feel as good on the Roland's IMO. But I'll continue to play.

[db3]

If the EQ slider is set to zero, that gives a bass boost. See the diagram in the side panel. 1 = flat.

[ELEX]

Honestly, what makes the Softube version better than the Cherry Audio $29 version?

Having demoed it a bit now and having the Cherry Audio too: everything.
Oscillator and filter sound way better to me; filter also responds much better when modulated. Better sounding resonance as well. I also like the envelopes better. Not to mention the chorus, which is awesome. The DCO-106 chorus has a tendency to break up a bit ( too deep a comb ? ), nothing like that with Model 84, it's exceptionally smooth. Not a clue as to how accurate this plugin emulates, but it sounds excellent to me. Better than Arturia, TAL and Cherry Audio, IMHO.

yeah a cs-80 would be nice, but also the arp2500 or 2600

2500 !

[simmo75]

Honestly, what makes the Softube version better than the Cherry Audio $29 version?

Having demoed it a bit now and having the Cherry Audio too: everything.
Oscillator and filter sound way better to me; filter also responds much better when modulated. Better sounding resonance as well. I also like the envelopes better. Not to mention the chorus, which is awesome. The DCO-106 chorus has a tendency to break up a bit ( too deep a comb ? ), nothing like that with Model 84, it's exceptionally smooth. Not a clue as to how accurate this plugin emulates, but it sounds excellent to me. Better than Arturia, TAL and Cherry Audio, IMHO.

yeah a cs-80 would be nice, but also the arp2500 or 2600

2500 !

Thanks for this.

I'm demoing now and it does sound good.

Where do I find the INIT or Default patch?

[ELEX]

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Where do I find the INIT or Default patch?

I don't think there actually is such a thing for any Softube synth, unfortunately.

[simmo75]

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Where do I find the INIT or Default patch?

I don't think there actually is such a thing for any Softube synth, unfortunately.

Huh, that's weird!

So I have to zero out the presets to make a new patch?

[sacer]

some more presets for the softube mnodular would be cool, or some mixed patches with other modules like model72

[mholloway]

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Where do I find the INIT or Default patch?

I don't think there actually is such a thing for any Softube synth, unfortunately.

Huh, that's weird!

So I have to zero out the presets to make a new patch?

Yes this is a very annoying oversight on the part of Softube. On both this and the Model 72 you have to create your own INIT (by option-clicking every parameter) and then save it as a User preset.

[Aloysius]

When you're finished, you could send it to Softube and they could include it in an update.

[e-crooner]

I suppose there was no init patch on the hardware, either

[mholloway]

I suppose there was no init patch on the hardware, either

If you watch the Starsky Carr video comparing Model 84 to an actual 106, he says the A1-1 patch on his hardware is just a sawtooth wave with full sustain, no processing.

So, yes, it did have one....

[e-crooner]

Oh, hadn't watched that one...

[Mr Arkadin]

I feel like if you can't make your own init patch on this thing then maybe you need just a preset synth.

[e-crooner]

Or even better, get a cowbell