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EdgarRothermich wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:13 pm
enroe wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 pm
Unaspected wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:12 pm Will be interesting to see what Behringer create though, having recently migrated to greener pastures, I'm feeling content chowing down on Reaper grass. That's Death's own smoke. 8)
Well, the new Behringer DAW won't bother Reaper at all. Because the
Reaper community are special people who like to tinker, customize
and develop themselves. So it's a rather small, closed circle.

No, the Behringer DAW is clearly aimed at the mass market, at average
consumers who need a DAW that can get started right away. And who
can then move all the little hardware controls.

But that means: The Behringer DAW will compete with Protools, Logic,
Cubase, Ableton, etc. A highly interesting development that will unfortunately
also trigger a price war - and which will cause difficult times for some
companies. Unfortunately. :(
That pretty much contradicts itself. I doubt that Behringer will include features for postproduction and Dolby Atmos mixes. And PT is also not aimed at the mass market and the average user.

BTW, AVID doesn't need Behringer to lose market share in the DAW market. AVID is doing a pretty good job themselves to alienate their current customers already so they jump ship.
Pretty much. I replaced Pro Tools with Reaper last year as they are very similar beasts in terms of available features, accuracy and stability.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with. Though, I'm not expecting a redesign of the wheel as that's never been Behringer's thing. It will likely be a clone of something. But I would love to be proved wrong and see a mixing paradigm revolution take place.

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pekbro wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:55 am i thought the Behri DAW was called samplitude as they are the owner of Magix.
Since when does behringer own magix ??
Unless your comment is meant as a joke ( that obviously went over my head )
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:08 am
pekbro wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:55 am i thought the Behri DAW was called samplitude as they are the owner of Magix.
Since when does behringer own magix ??
Unless your comment is meant as a joke ( that obviously went over my head )
No, no you're right, that was just a brain fart on my part it seems, or maybe of those senior moment
things. :shrug:

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AAS have just released a modular plugin, I’m already using Cherry Audio Voltage Modular and VCV Rack a lot and there’s also Softube Modular, the one built into Bitwig and more, just thinking if Behringer want their DAW to offer something new they could look at adding CV routing and making it as simple as other DAWs do with MIDI. If the host DAW can translate and sync a load of disparate modular systems, even maybe hardware if people use Expert Sleepers or tapping into the CV ports offered by controllers like Arturia Beatstep then it could make it stand out from the crowd.

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Wow, that AAS Modular Synth Plugin looks delicious. The GUI has the right balance between VCV Rack (too simple) and Cherry Audio (too flashy). It has a similar look as Vital which I really like.
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enroe wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 pm
Unaspected wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:12 pm Will be interesting to see what Behringer create though, having recently migrated to greener pastures, I'm feeling content chowing down on Reaper grass. That's Death's own smoke. 8)
Well, the new Behringer DAW won't bother Reaper at all. Because the
Reaper community are special people who like to tinker, customize
and develop themselves. So it's a rather small, closed circle.

No, the Behringer DAW is clearly aimed at the mass market, at average
consumers who need a DAW that can get started right away. And who
can then move all the little hardware controls.

But that means: The Behringer DAW will compete with Protools, Logic,
Cubase, Ableton, etc. A highly interesting development that will unfortunately
also trigger a price war - and which will cause difficult times for some
companies. Unfortunately. :(
What an odd statement. Consumers want a price war, may the best man win. I don't give a f**k what companies die or survive, I care who produces the best software at the right price. There's no need for a DAW to be €700.

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Funkstar De Luxe2 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:29 am
enroe wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 pm ... The Behringer DAW will compete with Protools, Logic,
Cubase, Ableton, etc. A highly interesting development that will unfortunately
also trigger a price war - and which will cause difficult times for some
companies. Unfortunately. :(
What an odd statement. Consumers want a price war, may the best man win. I don't give a f**k what companies die or survive, I care who produces the best software at the right price. There's no need for a DAW to be €700.
Haha, I understand you well!

But for companies it can be really existential how the market
operates. Behringer behaved like a pike in a carp pond, at least
in the hardware area. In this respect, we are looking forward
to exciting times at the DAW-market.
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enroe wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:48 am
Funkstar De Luxe2 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:29 am
enroe wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:54 pm ... The Behringer DAW will compete with Protools, Logic,
Cubase, Ableton, etc. A highly interesting development that will unfortunately
also trigger a price war - and which will cause difficult times for some
companies. Unfortunately. :(
What an odd statement. Consumers want a price war, may the best man win. I don't give a f**k what companies die or survive, I care who produces the best software at the right price. There's no need for a DAW to be €700.
Haha, I understand you well!

But for companies it can be really existential how the market
operates. Behringer behaved like a pike in a carp pond, at least
in the hardware area. In this respect, we are looking forward
to exciting times at the DAW-market.
I think it's dependant on how Behringer operate here. I'd love to see them put together something original, but really I can use anything as long as it's stable.

Personally I'd love to see the end of Pro Tools, or any other hardware locked DAW. Ableton really need to step their game up too, DAW scene has been stagnant for a while now.

Behringer have a big advantage that I can see - a fresh code base. No need for legacy shit, pure clean code...

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Not that I believe for a second that the Behringer DAW is going to kill pro tools, but why wish for PT to die? They have their market, just isn’t us.

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ShawnG wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:43 pm Not that I believe for a second that the Behringer DAW is going to kill pro tools, but why wish for PT to die? They have their market, just isn’t us.
Well, less Pro Tools and more Avid. Their aggressive and horrible business practices are bad not only for the consumer but the industry as a whole. Proprietary EVERYTHING. And now I think it’s subscription based too?! Nah!

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Funkstar De Luxe2 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:16 pm
ShawnG wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:43 pm Not that I believe for a second that the Behringer DAW is going to kill pro tools, but why wish for PT to die? They have their market, just isn’t us.
Well, less Pro Tools and more Avid. Their aggressive and horrible business practices are bad not only for the consumer but the industry as a whole. Proprietary EVERYTHING. And now I think it’s subscription based too?! Nah!
right, and that's how it plays on my end of the market as well, but I doubt the clientele that Pro Tools is aimed at looks at it the same way. I think PT used to try to live in the consumer market as well, and it didn't work. They aren't really trying to duke it out with Behringer, Presonus or Ableton. whether they survive long term in the high end depends on whether there's a high end to serve, but as long as there is, they'll be there, methinks.

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