Matt Tytel makes Vital Open source!!
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- KVRian
- 1481 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
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- KVRian
- 1066 posts since 3 Jan, 2020
No, not you specifically, people in general who don't like open source
I should have made it more clear that I was simply inspired by your post but not directly responding to it.
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Don't worry, all is OKHeld wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:32 pmNo, not you specifically, people in general who don't like open source
I should have made it more clear that I was simply inspired by your post but not directly responding to it.
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- KVRist
- 186 posts since 30 Dec, 2008
Does anyone consider to make some fork of Vital synth with better/more filters, than just JUCE standart ones? For example i like filters from open source synth Odin 2, or from Surge, Helix ? Or maybe some good sounding algos in the web?
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- KVRAF
- 2266 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Exactly this (IMO of couse!).Held wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:37 pmAre you stuck in the 90s or something? Microsoft's core business model is the cloud now, and the cloud runs on Linux. Microsoft pays many people to work full-time on open source and Linux. They own Github, the major hosting site for open source projects, and they've included Linux inside Windows as the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).chk071 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:17 pm... which is 100% PR drivel. You might also want to visit their newsroom, to see how they save the world among other things.
Steve Ballmer calling Linux cancer was actually hilarious. I wouldn't actually put it that drastic, but, the spirit surely spreads like cancer...
So you're right about one thing, the spirit of open source is spreading very quickly, and only brainwashed or evil people have a problem with it.
Open source is best for society while closed source is best for corporations and share holders.
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- Banned
- 194 posts since 25 Apr, 2021
I hope Matt will add better filters with time too.
- KVRist
- 186 posts since 28 Jan, 2013 from Oakland
Vital doesn’t use JUCE’s filters
- KVRAF
- 18547 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Can anyone actually elucidate why they find Vital's filters lacking ? "I want better/more" doesn't really help.
I realize it's de rigueur to complain about filters these days whether those complaints are valid or not.
I realize it's de rigueur to complain about filters these days whether those complaints are valid or not.
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Being a filter imbecile here, but what defines a "good" filter? Or if the questions is better asked this way, what defines a bad filter?
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
I suspect that any filter that doesn't say it was modeled after Moog Ladder or Oberheim SEM will be considered "bad".starflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:10 pm Being a filter imbecile here, but what defines a "good" filter? Or if the questions is better asked this way, what defines a bad filter?
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
That would actually make sense in this forumfmr wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:18 pmI suspect that any filter that doesn't say it was modeled after Moog Ladder or Oberheim SEM will be considered "bad".starflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:10 pm Being a filter imbecile here, but what defines a "good" filter? Or if the questions is better asked this way, what defines a bad filter?
I also wonder why people only seem to play instruments individually and not use them in music production (where you probably won't be able to tell if a filter is good or bad).
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- KVRAF
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
i'm also not that eager for too many more filter models.
The filters are actually good for what they are (imo of course).
Not everything needs “perfect analog emulated“ filters.
I also seem to remember when Serum came out that it often got critized for it's “poor filters“, but nowadays it seems to have become some kind of benchmark (“not as good as Serum filters“...)
Maybe a few more wouldn't hurt, though i don't see those as highest priorities.
But stuff like that can easily go out of hand, like some synths featuring 20+ filter models.
Does it really get better by that many (or even more than that)?
Why not use a filter VST(i) if you want something different than the synths stock ones.
As far as i'm concerned, a handful of filters are better than dozens, where it often seems that the developers simply include many of them, because the y still had some legacy code left lying somewhere.
Vital is Vital, it doesn't desperately need 99-100% accurate Moog, SEM, or whatnot filters anyway (imo again of course)
The filters are actually good for what they are (imo of course).
Not everything needs “perfect analog emulated“ filters.
I also seem to remember when Serum came out that it often got critized for it's “poor filters“, but nowadays it seems to have become some kind of benchmark (“not as good as Serum filters“...)
Maybe a few more wouldn't hurt, though i don't see those as highest priorities.
But stuff like that can easily go out of hand, like some synths featuring 20+ filter models.
Does it really get better by that many (or even more than that)?
Why not use a filter VST(i) if you want something different than the synths stock ones.
As far as i'm concerned, a handful of filters are better than dozens, where it often seems that the developers simply include many of them, because the y still had some legacy code left lying somewhere.
Vital is Vital, it doesn't desperately need 99-100% accurate Moog, SEM, or whatnot filters anyway (imo again of course)
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- KVRist
- 38 posts since 10 Oct, 2020
I personally think the filters are great.. fun to use, sound good and are flexible with the mix knob which is always good to have and parallel and serial.. really nice.
I have read this loads of times but please expand the Sample part just a little!
I love that it is free running when you want that but also if it had a sample start knob you could modulate and also a loop that would let you decide the part to loop / free run loop it would be fantastic for extra sound design.
I have read this loads of times but please expand the Sample part just a little!
I love that it is free running when you want that but also if it had a sample start knob you could modulate and also a loop that would let you decide the part to loop / free run loop it would be fantastic for extra sound design.