Swanky Amp Pro released (1.3.0)

[garrinm]

Quick update: the "mid-week" update is out finally. The main feature is that you can now change the left/right values for parameters allowing for very wide stereo sounds. For most parameters this is actually implemented as mid/side for easier tweaking.

Otherwise there were quite a few changes under the hood, here's just a few:

• Performance optimizations (especially evident when using parameter automation)

• Smoother audio during preset changes.

• Added tool tips for preset management.

• Normalized level when disabling the cabinet.

As usual you can find the downloads here:

https://www.resonantdsp.com/swankyamppr ... l#download

Garrin

[prodigal_sounds]

0.4.0 visual bug/typo: tool-tip/help for input "adjust the guitar singal level"

[jbraner]

OK - so the global level is back up again. I had added around 12db to all my presets, but now they're back at 0db again. This is a good level - if anything, it's a little higher than "Swanky Amp Classic"

Quick update: the "mid-week" update is out finally. The main feature is that you can now change the left/right values for parameters allowing for very wide stereo sounds. For most parameters this is actually implemented as mid/side for easier tweaking.

So, this is the stereo parameters for the cab sim?
They're working fine
Are you still looking at multiple mics? ie 57 on LH side (a little bit) and 121 on RH side (a little bit)?

Normalized level when disabling the cabinet.

This is pretty good now - if anything, now it's a little *lower* with the cab engaged (before it was quite a bit higher)

Added tool tips for preset management.

Perfect! As long as people read them

[garrinm]

So, this is the stereo parameters for the cab sim?
They're working fine
Are you still looking at multiple mics? ie 57 on LH side (a little bit) and 121 on RH side (a little bit)?

Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully the audio levels won't need to change anymore.

You can add stereo spread to the amp parameters *and* the cab parameters. But not the pedals. When you toggle the "side mode", any non-grey parameter can be edited such that it's value is different in the left and right channels.

It's not very well explained by the UI at the moment, so I'm still thinking about how to make that clearer. In particular you can now have your two mics. Just click the side toggle button in the cab tab, then pick a different microphone (which will be applied to the right channel). And if you just want to blend two microphones you can bring the stereo width down to 0.

[garrinm]

Patch 0.4.1 is released, now with fewer typos xD (thank's @prodigal_sounds).

There are also 2 new presets, minor revisions to existing factory presets and defaults, small UI tweaks and the code is now signed for macOS.

https://www.resonantdsp.com/swankyamppr ... l#download

[jbraner]

You can add stereo spread to the amp parameters *and* the cab parameters. But not the pedals. When you toggle the "side mode", any non-grey parameter can be edited such that it's value is different in the left and right channels.

It's not very well explained by the UI at the moment, so I'm still thinking about how to make that clearer. In particular you can now have your two mics. Just click the side toggle button in the cab tab, then pick a different microphone (which will be applied to the right channel). And if you just want to blend two microphones you can bring the stereo width down to 0.

Hmm, I didn't see any of that - just the two settings on the cab sim page for spread.
I'll grab 0.4.1 and have another look tomorrow

[garrinm]

Hmm, I didn't see any of that - just the two settings on the cab sim page for spread.
I'll grab 0.4.1 and have another look tomorrow

It's an icon in the top bar (beside the cab section toggle). I see it's well past time to make a manual xD.

[glokraw]

The drag & drop vst3 ...

[jbraner]

Hmm, I didn't see any of that - just the two settings on the cab sim page for spread.
I'll grab 0.4.1 and have another look tomorrow

It's an icon in the top bar (beside the cab section toggle). I see it's well past time to make a manual xD.

I may not have time to play with this today - but will certainly get on it tomorrow (Monday)

[jbraner]

I see it's well past time to make a manual xD.

This is beta - we don't need a manual
Besides, we wouldn't be scouring the manual for every beta version
When you release it to the public - *then* you need a manual

[jbraner]

Hmm, I didn't see any of that - just the two settings on the cab sim page for spread.
I'll grab 0.4.1 and have another look tomorrow

It's an icon in the top bar (beside the cab section toggle). I see it's well past time to make a manual xD.

Hmm, just call me thick, but I don't get what these controls are doing.
The two drive ones are doing something pretty cool - but I don't know what They seem to be adding a little more gain on the LH side andwidening the signal (because it's different on either side now).
For the tone stack, I don't hear what it's doing.

In the cab sim section - enabling that icon seems to *disable* the bal and width knobs.
But how do I put one mic on the LH side and a different one (different pos and distance) on the RH side?

[garrinm]

Hmm, just call me thick, but I don't get what these controls are doing.
The two drive ones are doing something pretty cool - but I don't know what They seem to be adding a little more gain on the LH side andwidening the signal (because it's different on either side now).
For the tone stack, I don't hear what it's doing.

In the cab sim section - enabling that icon seems to *disable* the bal and width knobs.
But how do I put one mic on the LH side and a different one (different pos and distance) on the RH side?

That's not you, it's definitely the UI which isn't communicating the stereo editing very well, if at all xD. I'm working on that at the moment, but for now here's what you need to know:

• There are effectively two versions of the plugin running side-by-side, one is processing the left channel, the other the right channel.

• Normally when you change a parameter value, it changes in both the L and R processors.

• When are in the side edit mode (*toggled* by clicking the stereo icon in the top bar), you are editing the stereo spread of a parameter. If you increase a slider value, you are increasing the value of that parameter in the right channel, and simultaneously decreasing its value in the left channel.

• Some parameters have a single value which is used in both the left and right channels. They are deactivated when in side edit mode.

So basically, in normal circumstances you are editing the "mid" value of each parameter. And in side edit mode you are spreading them in the side channel.

Separate from that you can also control how the plugin mixes the left and right channels. This is done with the balance and width knobs.

Right now I'm working on tool tips to make it clear what you are doing to a value when in side edit mode.

Hopefully that clears up some things. And hopefully the next version of the UI is more intuitive.

Thanks for the feedback,
Garrin

[jbraner]

Hi Garrin,
Thanks for the explanation - that helps! I'm still not sure why you'd want to do this though. Just for a big "fat" sound that's kind of like a double track with different settings on L&R? What do the tone control ones do? Increase on one side and decrease on the other too? Again, why? For "fatness"?
I thought those stereo controls were just for the cab?
And last but not least - I'm sorry to harp on about multiple mics on the cab. If it's not there, that's fine - I just want to be sure I'm not missing it

[garrinm]

Hi Garrin,
Thanks for the explanation - that helps! I'm still not sure why you'd want to do this though. Just for a big "fat" sound that's kind of like a double track with different settings on L&R? What do the tone control ones do? Increase on one side and decrease on the other too? Again, why? For "fatness"?
I thought those stereo controls were just for the cab?
And last but not least - I'm sorry to harp on about multiple mics on the cab. If it's not there, that's fine - I just want to be sure I'm not missing it

It's just to fatten the sound, to get that double-tracked stereo sound out of a single stereo instance. In other guitar amp plugins they make it more explicit that it's 2 different amps. I setup the controls this way because I find it more intuitive and it's something I always wanted to use. But maybe I need to think about it some more.

To get to the 2nd microphone, when you're in the "cab" page, toggle the "stereo edit mode". You are now editing the 2nd microphone. You can select a different mic and position etc. Then when you un-toggle "stereo edit mode" you'll see the original microphone values displayed. Now you have two different microphones for the left and right channels.

I can see why this isn't very intuitive. As I said I will keep mulling over this.

Thanks,
Garrin

[jbraner]

To get to the 2nd microphone, when you're in the "cab" page, toggle the "stereo edit mode". You are now editing the 2nd microphone. You can select a different mic and position etc. Then when you un-toggle "stereo edit mode" you'll see the original microphone values displayed. Now you have two different microphones for the left and right channels.

aha! I wouldn't have come up with that

I can see why this isn't very intuitive. As I said I will keep mulling over this.

Well, can you squeeze in another section for the mic (I don't have it in front of me now - but the section where you pick mic, position and tilt) so you can have them both on the same screen as
mic L and mic R?
IMHO you really need these on the same screen - but it's up to you

The other controls are fine once you explain what they are (you'd have a whole section in the manual and a blurb on the web page etc)

Anyway, that's what the beta group is for - to work these things out - right?