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One Synth Challenge #147: Any Full Bucket Music Synth Challenge (schiing Wins!)
- KVRAF
- 2133 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
- KVRist
- 409 posts since 4 Nov, 2019
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 18 Jan, 2016
I would love to participate. However the Modular seems to crash in my MacBook Air M1 with Bitwig (currently three tracks and the last track crashes, or mutes the whole Bitwig.)
I will try with Logic Pro and keep you updated.
I will try with Logic Pro and keep you updated.
- KVRAF
- 2133 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
Maybe there's an issue with the M1 specific to Modulair? There are plenty of other synths to try: Mono/Fury, Fury-800, and the list goes on
P.S. I just loaded up The Blooo yesterday and realized it would also be a quite nice one for OSC with lots of options for envelope modulation and such...
- KVRian
- 575 posts since 27 Oct, 2015
I've been working a lot developing ModulAir presets lately, so this was timely! Here's another early entry for this month's OSC.
https://soundcloud.com/terjefjelde/into-the-night
Very subtle external effects here - save compressor sidechains, this is pretty much pure ModulAir. Lots of fun to be had with ModulAir - experimenting with the sequencers, emulating the setup of various analog synths, various FM setups, or just plain going crazy with routing and modulating everything.
DAW: Studio One Professional 5.2
Full Bucket of choice: ModulAir
ModulAires: 41, from init. No samples / wavetables.
Efx: ProEQ, DD Compressor, IVGI, DC1A, CA-2A, Frontier, TDR VOS Slick EQ, StereoTool, Overtone, PSP Xenon
https://soundcloud.com/terjefjelde/into-the-night
Very subtle external effects here - save compressor sidechains, this is pretty much pure ModulAir. Lots of fun to be had with ModulAir - experimenting with the sequencers, emulating the setup of various analog synths, various FM setups, or just plain going crazy with routing and modulating everything.
DAW: Studio One Professional 5.2
Full Bucket of choice: ModulAir
ModulAires: 41, from init. No samples / wavetables.
Efx: ProEQ, DD Compressor, IVGI, DC1A, CA-2A, Frontier, TDR VOS Slick EQ, StereoTool, Overtone, PSP Xenon
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- KVRAF
- 1588 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
Hey Bjorn,
I am using Ragnarok. I just noticed It doesn't pass midi through. Is there a way I can activate that? It would make it a bit easier to layer.
Thanks
I am using Ragnarok. I just noticed It doesn't pass midi through. Is there a way I can activate that? It would make it a bit easier to layer.
Thanks
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- KVRian
- 895 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany
Chances are that (some of) my plug-ins do not work with M1 Apples. Since I do not own such a device I cannot confirm nor fix that.
If you are using Reaper you can do it this way: Not sure how this might work in other hosts...Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:40 pmI am using Ragnarok. I just noticed It doesn't pass midi through. Is there a way I can activate that? It would make it a bit easier to layer.
Cheers, Björn
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- KVRAF
- 1588 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
Awesome ....thanks Bjorn.
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 18 Jan, 2016
Thanks Björn, Tricent is working nicely, so it seems to be a issue with Modular. So this is good opportunity for me to explore possibilities of very nice sounding Tricent!
- KVRist
- 74 posts since 26 Apr, 2017 from Lithuania
Rules states that "delays that perform modulation to achieve their sound are ALLOWED, but the modulation usage must be minimal". I'm not tech guru so wanted to ask: does all delays are considered modulation effects or only ones that have modulation knob (or something similar)? There are some simple delays with only few knobs, so was wondering if I push feedback to 11, will I break this rule?
- KVRian
- 575 posts since 27 Oct, 2015
Here's a "promo video" for my submission on YouTube . Nothing fancy, just a short loop based on my ModulAir "cockpit" fantasy. (Apologies for those asynchronous meters - I couldn't get the math right!)
https://youtu.be/dHxqzW7papE
I'd say that as long as an (external) delay is simply cloning the original signal without any form of pitch shifting or morphing, you're almost always on safe ground. But when the feedback loop starts to *define* the sound, you've probably gone too far, even with a simple delay.
https://youtu.be/dHxqzW7papE
A delay isn't a modulation effect in and of itself, but if you can manipulate the tone and pitch of the delay signal, it has modulating capabilities.MrKarolus wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:15 pm I'm not tech guru so wanted to ask: does all delays are considered modulation effects or only ones that have modulation knob (or something similar)? There are some simple delays with only few knobs, so was wondering if I push feedback to 11, will I break this rule?
I'd say that as long as an (external) delay is simply cloning the original signal without any form of pitch shifting or morphing, you're almost always on safe ground. But when the feedback loop starts to *define* the sound, you've probably gone too far, even with a simple delay.
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- KVRAF
- 2133 posts since 29 Sep, 2011
Right, and even more specifically: you can adjust the time a delay occurs. when you do that, you're also affecting the pitch because you're making the playback rate longer or shorter. In fact this is how most chorus effects are implemented: using a short delay line with a modulated time, and then differing them for each channel in a stereo chorus. This why you often see - oddly enough - a delay time in a chorus plugin.schiing wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:01 pmA delay isn't a modulation effect in and of itself, but if you can manipulate the tone and pitch of the delay signal, it has modulating capabilities.
I'd say that as long as an (external) delay is simply cloning the original signal without any form of pitch shifting or morphing, you're almost always on safe ground. But when the feedback loop starts to *define* the sound, you've probably gone too far, even with a simple delay.
All that said, I believe the rule is about allowing delays that might be "analog" sounding, like those that would emulate a tape with some wow & flutter, which might slightly chorus the feedback to make it less digital sounding and act more like a real tape would, so just don't make that chorusing effect especially noticeable and there's no problem.
And, as with ever effect, if you're asking "is this too much"? Is it drastically affecting the sound? Then probably so.
- KVRist
- 409 posts since 4 Nov, 2019
In addition to what schiing and z.prime had to say, I would point out since you mention cranking the feedback to 11, if your idea is to use it to repeat an audio clip indefinitely, that has been considered equivalent to sampling a sound for consistency.MrKarolus wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:15 pm Rules states that "delays that perform modulation to achieve their sound are ALLOWED, but the modulation usage must be minimal". I'm not tech guru so wanted to ask: does all delays are considered modulation effects or only ones that have modulation knob (or something similar)? There are some simple delays with only few knobs, so was wondering if I push feedback to 11, will I break this rule?
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
I get the feeling I've been interpreting the grey areas of the rules a bit more loosely than the consensus. I'll dial it back in future.