Is the Small Stone Phaser Effect Possible with Logic Phaser?

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KVRist
175 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Tue May 04, 2021 4:13 pm

I've been playing around with Logic's stock phaser to get the sound of the famous "Small Stone Phaser" used in, for example, JM Jarre's Oxygene album. I just cannot get that sweeping phasing effect from the stock phaser.

Am I doing something wrong with Logic's stock phaser? Or, do I need a 3rd party emulation like Fazortan 2 or Phaser Mistress?

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KVRist
416 posts since 5 Jan, 2007

Post Tue May 04, 2021 5:47 pm

Not sure if the phaser plug-in will get you there, but if not, try out the pedalboard. There are a few different phasers in there, one of them might do it for you.
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KVRAF
28478 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed May 05, 2021 11:57 am

Chrisk-K wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:13 pm
I've been playing around with Logic's stock phaser to get the sound of the famous "Small Stone Phaser" used in, for example, JM Jarre's Oxygene album. I just cannot get that sweeping phasing effect from the stock phaser.

Am I doing something wrong with Logic's stock phaser? Or, do I need a 3rd party emulation like Fazortan 2 or Phaser Mistress?
It can't hurt to try those, I guess.

Phasers are like filters. Quite different sounding, and very individual, and subjective.
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KVRian
634 posts since 29 Nov, 2002 from Finland

Post Thu May 06, 2021 12:59 am

If you have Reaktor, you can try the fantastic Eminent-V 310 ensemble in the user library. It contains (among other things) an emulation of the Small Stone Phaser. I don't have the original pedal or other emulations of it, but I have listened to Oxygene so much during my lifetime that the sound is very familiar to me, and I think the ensemble pretty much nails it. :D As a bonus, you also get other effects, and of course an emulation of the string sound itself. If you just want the phaser and to use it with other sources, it's pretty easy to extract it from the ensemble.

I just spent a moment trying to match Logic's phaser to the Reaktor phaser, and while it's certainly possible to match certain things (number of stages, frequency sweep range, etc) and get in the ballpark, it still seems to miss that last 25% of Magic. Below are the settings I tried which I think are kind of close to the Reaktor emulation (with the Color switch enabled), but it's certainly not the same.
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175 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Thu May 06, 2021 9:28 am

I’ve also played with Logic’s three phaser stomp pedals. They don’t sound quite like the Small Stone. I’ll probably buy Fazortan 2.

KVRian
994 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Thu May 06, 2021 9:42 am

Chrisk-K wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 9:28 am
I’ll probably buy Fazortan 2.
Also try their Godfazer.

And IK Multimedia also has the Small Phazer in AmpliTube and MixBox.

KVRAF
2468 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY

Post Fri May 07, 2021 9:22 am

ArtsAcoustic BigRock.....It IS a Small Stone:

https://www.artsacoustic.com/artsacoustic_bigrock.php
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KVRAF
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Post Fri May 07, 2021 2:57 pm

CapnLockheed wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 9:22 am
ArtsAcoustic BigRock.....It IS a Small Stone:

https://www.artsacoustic.com/artsacoustic_bigrock.php
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