Automatic phantom center plugin

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KVRAF
3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Tue May 11, 2021 3:42 am

Is there a plugin that would automatically center the stereo image without too much interference?


I tried Melda MAutoStereoFix but it analyses the audio and it doesn't work in my case where the stereo image is all over the place.
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KVRAF

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3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Tue May 11, 2021 3:43 am

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KVRian
996 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Post Tue May 11, 2021 4:40 am

Not exactly the same, but maybe Sideminder can help ? https://www.raisingjakestudios.com/plugins.html
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KVRAF
5753 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Tue May 11, 2021 4:56 am

dionenoid wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 4:40 am
Not exactly the same, but maybe Sideminder can help ? https://www.raisingjakestudios.com/plugins.html
Nice! I have been looking for something similar to that and was planning to write one myself if I had to. (My idea was, when negative correlation is detected, invert the phase of one side at the next zero crossing. There might be some consequence to that that I don't really know, though.)

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KVRian
1368 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Tue May 11, 2021 6:01 am

Maybe you could simply use any M/S plugin and increase the M part also ? Instant recenter guarenteed...
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KVRAF
3804 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Tue May 11, 2021 2:50 pm

There are a few plugins that can give you "collapsed mono" as well, rather than the typical "extracted M" signal. MathewLane StereoDelta does it - he calls it "true mono folddown".

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3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Tue May 11, 2021 10:50 pm

I don't want it to collapse - i want the phantom center to move to center while retaining stereo info (like moving a stereo pan knob) :)
I tried limiting and M/S tricks and decouple compressors and even iZotope RX level matching, but nothing is "quite right".

so far i only found https://www.boomlibrary.com/sound-effects/recenter/ that does it fairly naturally.

I went with manual stereo pan automatisation in this particular case, ReCenter fails on transients.
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KVRian
1368 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Wed May 12, 2021 4:38 am

Maybe you could also simply apply mono to the lower frequencies... when the stereo of a track is really f#cked up, there’s sometime nothing better you can do... It will recenter the global image while maintaining a feeling of stereo...
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3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed May 12, 2021 6:41 am

DJErmac wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 4:38 am
Maybe you could also simply apply mono to the lower frequencies... when the stereo of a track is really f#cked up, there’s sometime nothing better you can do... It will recenter the global image while maintaining a feeling of stereo...
yeah no, this is like bandoneon L/R and Piano Hi/Lo. Imo just not recorded optimally
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KVRian
1368 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Wed May 12, 2021 6:16 pm

A very filtered (no high frequencies at all, just to emphasize the low frequencies content) fully centered reverb might help reinforce the feeling of center power in this case.
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3829 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Thu May 13, 2021 1:18 am

Yeah not a bad idea - i collapsed both piano and bandoneon for the reverb feed
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