Studio One 5 - Why does it reset my window/interface settings every time?

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Hi,
New to Studio One, but already being annoyed by many little things. I'm totally aware that it might be due to my non-familiarity with the program, that's why I turn to the forums :)

One thing that really gets me, is that window tweaks/view tweaks are not saved, and i need to re-adjust things each and every single time, even within the same session.

For example, this is how I left my piano roll view for Impact XT right before saving it:
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This is how it looks like after re-opening my project:
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Another example is the browser, when auditioning samples, i set the sample player to auto-play and auto-loop a sample when I'm auditioning samples. A few minutes later I'm in the browser looking for another sample, and the sample playback settings are back to default and I need to set them again to auto-play, auto-loop.

Am i missing something? is there a way to save all those little window/interface tweaks?

Thank you in advance
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I don't know, but I would look for something in preferences like return to the last saved state upon launch

also it may be a sign of corrupt preferences, ie., if there is that and it is ticked but doesn't work...

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jancivil wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 4:34 pm I don't know, but I would look for something in preferences like return to the last saved state upon launch

also it may be a sign of corrupt preferences, ie., if there is that and it is ticked but doesn't work...
Thanks,
Just to make sure that the issue is from my side, for you it doesn't behave like that?

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I'm just basing it on experience with that kind of thing, cf., Cubase. There it fails to remember what it's supposed to remember and its preferences seem easily corruptable.

it seems unlikely they don't provide for that as a preference.

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Stupid question, but, does it save all your other preferences, like custom VST folders and stuff? It if doesn't, you may have to adjust the read/write access of the Studio One preferences folder.

On Windows, that's Users/YourUsername/AppData/Roaming/Presonus/Studio One 5

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chk071 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:07 pm Stupid question, but, does it save all your other preferences, like custom VST folders and stuff? It if doesn't, you may have to adjust the read/write access of the Studio One preferences folder.

On Windows, that's Users/YourUsername/AppData/Roaming/Presonus/Studio One 5
Yes it does save the directories, and other interface tweaks as well, but not all.

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Another example, every single time i have to change this back to seconds, it always reverts to Bars for some reason:
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Looks like a corrupt installation, I suggest re-downloading Studio One again and re-installing.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the installation. I just tried it, and there definitely seems to be some inconsistency with the "Hide Unused" feature in the Drum view.
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If you have "Show Default" enabled and put in a note into a track, then save and reopen the song, all assigned pads are shown as expected, regardless of whether they have any MIDI data in the piano roll.

If you have "Hide Unused" enabled and put in a note, save and reload, all unused tracks (those with no MIDI data) are hidden every time you reload the project. So far this is as expected.

However, if you *only* change the view setting and instantly save, close and reload the song, the setting isn't remembered. For it to save this setting with the song, it seems you also have to alter the MIDI data in some way after changing the view setting. It seems to be enough to simply insert a MIDI note anywhere, and then delete it.

Edit: The same behavior can be seen if you hide tracks using the wrench icon instead (which is probably what OP has done). You have to alter the MIDI for it to remember the view setting after saving and reloading.
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Usually not an issue since when you're changing the view setting, you'll probably also be altering the MIDI in some way, but still it's yet another weird quirk/inconsistency to add to the long list of weird little quirks in Studio One :party:

As for the time base, this is saved with the song. When you create a new song, it's one of the options you specify:
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You can set up a template with Seconds instead of Bars, if you want this to always be the default when you create a new song.
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Thanks,
Yeah i started to realize that creating a template will remedy most of the issues i experience, and will have to learn to live with the ones that are left :D

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I don't know why but PreSonus prefers to not notice some obvious inconveniences. For instance you can't zoom and pan by dragging the arrangement and piano roll with a mouse button or save the vertical zoom state in piano roll. I would like them to implement some of user requests rather than add new features. :neutral:

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phantom-one wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:43 am I would like them to implement some of user requests rather than add new features. :neutral:
From what I learned, Presonus listens to the users - via their feature request vote system. At least they did implement quite a bunch of most-rated requests in v5. Not enough votes = won‘t be implemented.

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phantom-one wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:43 am I don't know why but PreSonus prefers to not notice some obvious inconveniences. For instance you can't zoom and pan by dragging the arrangement and piano roll with a mouse button or save the vertical zoom state in piano roll. I would like them to implement some of user requests rather than add new features. :neutral:
You can find a lot of nice tricks here:


Personally I think S1 have the best nav/zooming compared to other DAWs that I've used.
I even don't miss the middle button click + drag from cubase that much anymore.
But that's just my opinion I guess...

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Crossinger wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:49 am
phantom-one wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:43 am I would like them to implement some of user requests rather than add new features. :neutral:
From what I learned, Presonus listens to the users - via their feature request vote system. At least they did implement quite a bunch of most-rated requests in v5. Not enough votes = won‘t be implemented.
A lot of the highest voted requests have gone unanswered for years, though. There are currently over 10k items under "Studio One" and it keeps growing. If you notice a problem, and you don't go on a crusade to get others to vote for it, it will get completely buried until they get to at least Studio One version 38.

My experience is that PreSonus prefer "marketable" features that justify charging for updates. Fixing minor bugs and inconsistencies or implementing smaller "quality of life" features isn't a priority.
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AdvancedFollower wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 7:38 pm A lot of the highest voted requests have
My experience is that PreSonus prefer "marketable" features that justify charging for updates. Fixing minor bugs and inconsistencies or implementing smaller "quality of life" features isn't a priority.
100% agree, but on the other hand, that's mostly the case with each and every DAW :roll:

Hard to market a software to newcomers being dubbed as "New in version 6! Bug fixes!!"

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