MIDI Routing Within a DAW?

[bharris22]

Hi Everyone,

I am just now getting started with Renoise, and am trying to record the midi output from a VST sequencer into a track. Unfortunately, Renoise apparently will only record midi from an external "midi device." Thus, I need to output the midi from the VST to one virtual external device (such as LoopBe), and then return the midi into Renoise from another external device (such as Loopmidi). I do not think I can use the same device for both, as I assume this will cause a feedback loop. Does anyone know of a program that can route the midi from one virtual device to another in this way? Or, is there a virtual midi cable that would allow me to route the midi internally from one channel to another, so that I can output on one channel, and have the data return on a different channel?

Thanks in advance for your help!

[worstcaseontario]

an old app called MIDIox is still useful for routing virtual MIDI around a PC.

[worstcaseontario]

watch out for feedback loops, though

[bharris22]

Thanks! Do you know if MIDIox works in Windows 10?

[worstcaseontario]

got it working here. use it mostly for diagnostics now.

[bharris22]

OK - thanks!

[JoseC.]

You can do it with LoopMidi, or any other similar app. You just need to create two virtual cables, not just one, like you would with actual cables, and connect one from output to input and the other the other way around. I do this in every DAW I use, with VCV Rack, and Lemur to/from iPad. No problem here.

[JoseC.]

Thanks! Do you know if MIDIox works in Windows 10?

Last time I tried, no. LoopMidi works fine.

[bharris22]

You can do it with LoopMidi, or any other similar app. You just need to create two virtual cables, not just one, like you would with actual cables, and connect one from output to input and the other the other way around. I do this in every DAW I use, with VCV Rack, and Lemur to/from iPad. No problem here.

This sounds like exactly my situation. Can I ask how you connect the output from one LoopMidi cable to the input of another? Is this done within LoopMidi?

[NTO]

My (extended) experience
MIDIox works fine in Windows 10. Their bridging tool- Midi Yoke - no.
When doing both in/out via virtual cables, I use a port per direction and put MidiOx in the middle as the turn-around director.

[worstcaseontario]

My (extended) experience
MIDIox works fine in Windows 10. Their bridging tool- Midi Yoke - no.
When doing both in/out via virtual cables, I use a port per direction and put MidiOx in the middle as the turn-around director.

that's right. i use loopMIDI virual cables and MIDIox as like a patchbay.

[bharris22]

OK - thanks. I will give this a try.

[JoseC.]

You can do it with LoopMidi, or any other similar app. You just need to create two virtual cables, not just one, like you would with actual cables, and connect one from output to input and the other the other way around. I do this in every DAW I use, with VCV Rack, and Lemur to/from iPad. No problem here.

This sounds like exactly my situation. Can I ask how you connect the output from one LoopMidi cable to the input of another? Is this done within LoopMidi?

1. I create two LoopMIDI cables, LoopMIDI Port 0 and LoopMIDI Port 1

2. In my DAW, I set up LoopMIDI Port 0 as an output MIDI Port, and LoopMIDI Port 1 as an input MIDI Port

3. In the other app, I set up LoopMIDI Port 0 as input MIDI Port, and LoopMIDI Port 1 as an output MIDI Port.

That is all there is to it.