21 Roland Personal Model Expansions (Fantom, JupiterX) and 21 corresponding Zen-Core Tones...... free for all

[benedettodue]

Thanks to numerous tests and using the documentation on the implementation of Fantom's MIDI System Exclusive messages, I was able to obtain two results that greatly expand the synthesis possibilities of the currently existing MODEL EXPANSIONS. In detail, I managed to:
- create Personal Model Expansions in which I modified the structure of the existing ones by adding new features and, in some cases, increasing the polyphony up to double it.They are totally new synths.
- convert any sound of any Model Expansions (except, for now of the JD800) into the corresponding Zen-Core tone: this tone will sound identical, it will be editable and obviously can be played on any Zen-Core Hardware (Ax-Edge, Rd-88, MC-101, MC-107 and MV-1 included), on the Zenology software and on the ZenBeat APP (ZC1 instrumets).
Here are some examples:
- Personal Model Juno 106 with detuned SAW and SQR
- Personal Model Juno 106 with SuperSaw oscillator instead of Noise
- Personal Model Juno 106 with 3 Saw oscillators, two detuned (-6 +6 Cent) and one with PWM
- Personal Model JX-8P with additional SuperSaw oscillator (also in an unfiltered version)
- Personal Model JX-8P with additional stereo Strings PCM oscillator
- Personal Model JX-8P with additional oscillator with PCM stereo sample Syn Vox1 (the classic sound of the Fairlight SARRAR)
- Personal Model SH-101 with an Alpha Juno oscillator (instead of the SQR) and equipped with PWM
- Personal Model Juno 106 with only OSC SAW and SQR (also in detuned version) and polyphony that goes from 14 to 28 voices
- Personal Model JX-8P with 28 voices polyphony (eliminated the background noise oscillator which reduces the polyphony of the instrument from 28 to 19 voices)

Info and Free download of the sounds on my site
http://www.benis.it/cm/articoli/Fantom_ ... del_EN.htm
A video explaining what can be obtained at the link


Free Editor...Work in progress

[cytospur]

Amazing, looks like a lot of hard graft! Keep up the good work

[benedettodue]

Roland did a great job emulating some of his classic synths via the Zen-Core engine.
It is evident that this engine was built and designed for these emulations too, as well and we will certainly see other emulations.
My work does a very different thing: trying to overcome the limits of emulated synths, adding and modifying some parameters, but without inserting them all. So you get Juno106 with detunated oscillators or with SuperSaw, SH101 with Alpha Juno oscillators, etc, etc.
The edited sounds can then be memorized and recalled like those of the original emulations(Roland memorizes the zen core substrate also in the model expansions)

[trusampler]

When's this software available?

[Fleer]

Kudos RD-88 user here.
That editor looks promising.
Any further updates?

[trusampler]

Any news on this?

[Big Mouth Strikes Again]

Thanks to numerous tests and using the documentation on the implementation of Fantom's MIDI System Exclusive messages, I was able to obtain two results that greatly expand the synthesis possibilities of the currently existing MODEL EXPANSIONS. In detail, I managed to:
- create Personal Model Expansions in which I modified the structure of the existing ones by adding new features and, in some cases, increasing the polyphony up to double it.They are totally new synths.
- convert any sound of any Model Expansions (except, for now of the JD800) into the corresponding Zen-Core tone: this tone will sound identical, it will be editable and obviously can be played on any Zen-Core Hardware (Ax-Edge, Rd-88, MC-101, MC-107 and MV-1 included), on the Zenology software and on the ZenBeat APP (ZC1 instrumets).
Here are some examples:
- Personal Model Juno 106 with detuned SAW and SQR
- Personal Model Juno 106 with SuperSaw oscillator instead of Noise
- Personal Model Juno 106 with 3 Saw oscillators, two detuned (-6 +6 Cent) and one with PWM
- Personal Model JX-8P with additional SuperSaw oscillator (also in an unfiltered version)
- Personal Model JX-8P with additional stereo Strings PCM oscillator
- Personal Model JX-8P with additional oscillator with PCM stereo sample Syn Vox1 (the classic sound of the Fairlight SARRAR)
- Personal Model SH-101 with an Alpha Juno oscillator (instead of the SQR) and equipped with PWM
- Personal Model Juno 106 with only OSC SAW and SQR (also in detuned version) and polyphony that goes from 14 to 28 voices
- Personal Model JX-8P with 28 voices polyphony (eliminated the background noise oscillator which reduces the polyphony of the instrument from 28 to 19 voices)

It's amazing that you have found a way to make these additional model expansions. They sound really good.

However, none of the Zencore model expansions (even your modified models) sound like the original instruments to me. Especially the JX-8P. I have an MKS-70 and it sounds so much more lush (even a single tone) and dynamic than the Zencore model.

This is no critique of your cool model modifications. But IMO the sample-based Zencore SuperSaw wave doesn't sound anything like the original SuperSaw in the JP-8000.

[benedettodue]

the purpose of the changes I made is not to improve the emulation, but to add features (see detuned oscillators) and eliminate useless limits (see the partial wasted to emulate the background noise, or the partial used with zero volume which unnecessarily decrease the polyphony).
All while maintaining the simplicity of the model expansion, much easier to program than the full zencore engine.
However, I will soon make available an editor that allows, among other things, to load a sound or bank of model sounds. get the corresponding zen-core for any modifications