You are probably no longer the target audience. Reason is now a "wrapper" for RE's and complex soundscapes. And best used in other DAW's. I took the plunge and moved on to Studio One in early 2019. And didn't regret it. Vastly better arrangement and editing features, constantly updated with new features even in unpaid minor updates. And Reason lives well inside Studio One as plugin. Couldn't be happier. I don't think it's worth the wait if Reason Studios will change their minds. To say it with Walt Disney (to P.L. Travers after the premiere of Mary Poppins): "The ship has sailed!"
Reason 12 announced
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- KVRist
- 461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
- KVRAF
- 23481 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I have S1 5 Pro, but still prefer using Reason over it and completely disagree that S1 is better in regards to arranging and editing.
Reason's Blocks piss all over S1's Arranger Track and Reason's audio editors (all three of them) also are totally in another league compared to what S1 offers. The only advantage that S1 has in that regard is that it can do polyphonic audio, thanks to Melodyne.
Reason's Blocks piss all over S1's Arranger Track and Reason's audio editors (all three of them) also are totally in another league compared to what S1 offers. The only advantage that S1 has in that regard is that it can do polyphonic audio, thanks to Melodyne.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRist
- 461 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
Ok, then we can agree on "different preferences". But regarding the future of development I think the Walt Disney quote stays valid.
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
Does Reason 11 have MPE support? If not, will 12?
- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
No & very unlikely respectively.
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
You are lucky it's "only" well over 1k EURantic604 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:54 amI know. I've well over EUR 1k "stuck" there. But I gotta cut my loses somewhere.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:37 am Crazy when it’s tied to your account. Oh well, I have only bought a few, but it is a waste if I do ever look to sell.
I made a mistake counting together all transaction made in the Reason Studios shop, and reached almost 7,1k EUR. And that is except the purchases of the DAW itself, going from v9 through 11 (Suite). Even though I'm not regretting many of the purchases, individually, it is a LOT of money, and it would have felt better if the Rack Extensions were resellable. But I knew they weren't already from the beginning.
I'm the one the Reason Studios share holders dream of in their wettest dreams
i9-10900K | 128GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | Arturia AudioFuse/KeyLab mkII/SparkLE | PreSonus ATOM/ATOM SQ | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Reaper | Renoise | FL Studio | ~900 VSTs | 300+ REs
- Banned
- 9087 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.
and if they had managed some of that 10 years ago this target might have been hitCrossinger wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 2:30 pmYou are probably no longer the target audience. Reason is now a "wrapper" for RE's and complex soundscapes. And best used in other DAW's.
Don't feed the gators,y'all
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
You are indeed a "whale", um, excuse me, an "enthusiast."starflakeprj wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:46 pmYou are lucky it's "only" well over 1k EURantic604 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:54 amI know. I've well over EUR 1k "stuck" there. But I gotta cut my loses somewhere.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:37 am Crazy when it’s tied to your account. Oh well, I have only bought a few, but it is a waste if I do ever look to sell.
I made a mistake counting together all transaction made in the Reason Studios shop, and reached almost 7,1k EUR. And that is except the purchases of the DAW itself, going from v9 through 11 (Suite). Even though I'm not regretting many of the purchases, individually, it is a LOT of money, and it would have felt better if the Rack Extensions were resellable. But I knew they weren't already from the beginning.
I'm the one the Reason Studios share holders dream of in their wettest dreams
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Or only a collector?ghettosynth wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:14 pmYou are indeed a "whale", um, excuse me, an "enthusiast."starflakeprj wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 4:46 pmYou are lucky it's "only" well over 1k EURantic604 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:54 amI know. I've well over EUR 1k "stuck" there. But I gotta cut my loses somewhere.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 9:37 am Crazy when it’s tied to your account. Oh well, I have only bought a few, but it is a waste if I do ever look to sell.
I made a mistake counting together all transaction made in the Reason Studios shop, and reached almost 7,1k EUR. And that is except the purchases of the DAW itself, going from v9 through 11 (Suite). Even though I'm not regretting many of the purchases, individually, it is a LOT of money, and it would have felt better if the Rack Extensions were resellable. But I knew they weren't already from the beginning.
I'm the one the Reason Studios share holders dream of in their wettest dreams
I guess my behavior comes from my younger days when I used to download everything, less legally, just collecting, possibly installing, but never finishing anything. Some things have changed since. Nowadays, I can afford the software, and have the opinion if you cannot afford it, choose something cheaper or a free legal alternative. Some things have not changed. I'm still collecting in the same volumes as before, I'm still not finishing much more than I was 10+ years ago
i9-10900K | 128GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | Arturia AudioFuse/KeyLab mkII/SparkLE | PreSonus ATOM/ATOM SQ | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Reaper | Renoise | FL Studio | ~900 VSTs | 300+ REs
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- addled muppet weed
- 105871 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i don't think ive spent half that on software in 20 years
probably closer to the 1k mark to be honest.
probably closer to the 1k mark to be honest.
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
Oh man, don't get me started on software in general, incl. VST plugins, then. Looking for someone/something to blame (except myself), and deep down in the archives I'm remembering where everything started. I bought Studio One v1.65 when it was released, can I blame them? I'm lucky that I have a job that can support it, I mean economically. But I also work a lot, so less time for music making
i9-10900K | 128GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | Arturia AudioFuse/KeyLab mkII/SparkLE | PreSonus ATOM/ATOM SQ | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Reaper | Renoise | FL Studio | ~900 VSTs | 300+ REs
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- addled muppet weed
- 105871 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
im no angel, this just happens to be a software thread so any hardware discussion would be off topicstarflakeprj wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:55 pmOh man, don't get me started on software in general, incl. VST plugins, then. Looking for someone/something to blame (except myself), and deep down in the archives I'm remembering where everything started. I bought Studio One v1.65 when it was released, can I blame them? I'm lucky that I have a job that can support it, I mean economically. But I also work a lot, so less time for music making
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- KVRian
- 895 posts since 1 Apr, 2005
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- addled muppet weed
- 105871 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
vurt wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:02 pmim no angel, this just happens to be a software thread so any hardware discussion would be off topicstarflakeprj wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 5:55 pmOh man, don't get me started on software in general, incl. VST plugins, then. Looking for someone/something to blame (except myself), and deep down in the archives I'm remembering where everything started. I bought Studio One v1.65 when it was released, can I blame them? I'm lucky that I have a job that can support it, I mean economically. But I also work a lot, so less time for music making
i9-10900K | 128GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | Arturia AudioFuse/KeyLab mkII/SparkLE | PreSonus ATOM/ATOM SQ | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Reaper | Renoise | FL Studio | ~900 VSTs | 300+ REs