Budget Ryzen vs. M1

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KVRAF
4485 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Tue May 18, 2021 3:30 pm

Today, at the GOOGLE convention (GoogleIO), they announced they have a chip (the TP4) that runs at EXAFLOP speeds.

"Think about it this way, if 10 million people were on their laptops right now, then all of those laptops put together would almost match the computing power of one exaflop," said Pichai.

They are throwing money at AI and virtual human building. They can render you virtually in 3d now.

also, South Korea announced a nation wide endeavor to create a virtual world.

we are f**king DOOMED.

KVRian

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1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India

Post Wed May 19, 2021 2:16 am

Hehe. Bigger problems Dasheesh ?
Yeah, I started whatching the IO highlights with what they calling Lambda
I think it was borderline creepy.

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed May 19, 2021 2:52 am

That's why I'm not the target audience for such presentation shows. They make you think that they will take over the world soon. Obviously people like and need that. To be WOW'd.

Frankly, I don't even understand most of the shit they talk there. I have my feet on the ground, I don't fly high up in the sphere somewhere. Bullcrap.
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KVRAF
4485 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Wed May 19, 2021 3:30 am

how old are you again chk071? I was thinking you were older then that. Do you remember the world before 2000? the entire world was turned on it's head and made unattainable in the last 20 years. we went from push button phones to hand held data collection devices. These people have your eye scan, your finger print, your daily movements, who your family and friends are, how much money you spend and what you spend it on. They know where you are and what you are doing right now. They know where you are sitting, and in what room. They know where your kid goes to school, when you pick them up, and what route you take home. They even have your DNA. Their goal is to make a digital copy of you and render life useless. They are pure evil, and we cannot shut them off.

If you have never taken the time to GOOGLE GOOGLE's quantum computer and image it.... you should. we are about 20 years away from cyborg tech. Our grand children will be fighting each other over implanted tech. The richest will survive.
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KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed May 19, 2021 3:32 am

As I mentioned...
chk071 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 2:52 am
I have my feet on the ground, I don't fly high up in the sphere somewhere.
;)
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KVRian
754 posts since 7 Apr, 2019

Post Wed May 19, 2021 6:02 am

jancivil wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 1:29 pm
There is a Thunderbolt 4, so I don't know how it's being phased out. I don't know, but I would need that supported by something before I believed it.
Well, perhaps then it's the earlier version which was merely replaced by usb3. It's nothing new, it's been occurring in Macs for the last 7 years that there's less thunderbolt connections than ever. I'm glad to hear the technology is improving though; that will probably ensure that the technology gets a fair shake, faster than usb3 after all.
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KVRAF
21979 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Fri May 21, 2021 4:38 pm

you could look it up

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KVRAF
7080 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Mon May 24, 2021 3:57 pm

Personally, I'm jumping into the M1 world. Yes, I have just upgraded my Ryzen CPU/Motherboard/RAM in my Desktop PC but I'm getting MacBook Air so I have both worlds in different sizes :hihi:

M1 looks fantastic (I really don't care about OSX vs Windows vs Linux! All are OSes!). The energy consuming + the silent operation means a lot! If I haven't a desktop already (good monitor with PS5/Xbox/Switch connected as well), I would buy the new iMac! It is a crazy great value for the money! But I don't have room for it unfortunately!

The only thing is to check the compatibility of the software with M1 (native or Rosetta). I'm not worried about the support. Soon, all will support M1 natively. It is the history repeating itself when Apple moved to intel!

Being a fanboy is old fashioned now :hihi: I'm an opportunist when comes to computers :D I'm with the strongest! M1 seems the winner in CPU wars for now ;)
Mostly: M1 Air with Logic Pro or Bitwig 4 beta || Win 10 PC with Studio One v5, Live 11 or Bitwig 3.3 & MODX 6, KeyLab MK ii and several plugins.

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184 posts since 28 Dec, 2016

Post Mon May 24, 2021 4:08 pm

^ Strongest compared to what? It's not that powerful...

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KVRAF
7080 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm

Compared to AMD and Intel in energy/noise/heat. These are very important factors especially for musicians. I have my PC now almost silent with some light tasks (like writing here!) with just 35c but as soon as the pressure starts and the CPU temperature is 70c, the fans will start like crazy! (I have silent good case by the way).

I chose the lowest speed to make it almost silent (and still I can hear the whisper of the fan!).
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KVRian
632 posts since 19 Jan, 2008

Post Wed May 26, 2021 7:46 am

I'm running an AMD Ryzen 1700 and it's dead silent. I can hear monitor hiss and I won't hear my computer, even when working on heavy projects. So I wouldn't say you can't have a really quite PC, you just need to have the right cooler and case.

I'm using an air cooler, BeQuite! Dark Rock Pro 4, huge cooler, but it keeps it really cold at low rpm and the case is a Fractal Design Define R5. Before, I had a Hard Drive in my PC, and it was the only loud part, you could actually hear it buzzing and I thought it was something else. As soon as I switched to SDDs, that noise went away and it's whisper quite.

After did all that, I was scared, I thought the fans weren't spinning cause I couldn't hear it. :lol:

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed May 26, 2021 7:51 am

nIGhT-SoN wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 7:46 am
I'm running an AMD Ryzen 1700 and it's dead silent. I can hear monitor hiss
Try some balanced cables (if you're talking about the path from your audio interface to your studio monitors, of course). I had some noise issues, which I lead back to my monitor, but, it actually was my wireless mouse, and using balanced cables from my audio interface to my speakers completely removed the noise.
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KVRAF
7080 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from Auckland, NZ

Post Wed May 26, 2021 8:08 am

nIGhT-SoN wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 7:46 am
I'm running an AMD Ryzen 1700 and it's dead silent. I can hear monitor hiss and I won't hear my computer, even when working on heavy projects. So I wouldn't say you can't have a really quite PC, you just need to have the right cooler and case.

I'm using an air cooler, BeQuite! Dark Rock Pro 4, huge cooler, but it keeps it really cold at low rpm and the case is a Fractal Design Define R5. Before, I had a Hard Drive in my PC, and it was the only loud part, you could actually hear it buzzing and I thought it was something else. As soon as I switched to SDDs, that noise went away and it's whisper quite.

After did all that, I was scared, I thought the fans weren't spinning cause I couldn't hear it. :lol:
I have fractal design Define r5 like yours with hyper 212x air cooler. I had be quiet with the previous cpu (1600x) and it was very quiet, but 5800x is different, so the motherboard has aggressive cooling. I have gigabyte, maybe Asus is better, or maybe the cooler is not quiet as the previous one, but something is sure and it's this 5800x can run hotter than 1600x.

Anyway, I already ordered a MacBook air, so I will enjoy the silence as Dave did :D
Mostly: M1 Air with Logic Pro or Bitwig 4 beta || Win 10 PC with Studio One v5, Live 11 or Bitwig 3.3 & MODX 6, KeyLab MK ii and several plugins.

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