!!!THE BITCH IS BACK!!! - Bitch Shaped Box (a mashup)
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
Daaaaaaaamn GIRL!
You'd make the 'T' stand for talent in this town for sure!
Anytime you wish to come up to climb around my (ahem) CN Tower, or get lost in the underground here... I'll do my best to be the 'Host with the most'.
Your Moo-Goo-Guy-Pan-Man... Man.
Anytime you wish to come up to climb around my (ahem) CN Tower, or get lost in the underground here... I'll do my best to be the 'Host with the most'.
Your Moo-Goo-Guy-Pan-Man... Man.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
Steven West wrote:Daaaaaaaamn GIRL!You'd make the 'T' stand for talent in this town for sure!
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Ta! For real!?
I just do what I can and try to learn more and be a better musician, artist, singer, remixer, dj, whatever i put my mind to.
Anytime you wish to come up to climb around my (ahem) CN Tower, or get lost in the underground here... I'll do my best to be the 'Host with the most'.![]()
Hehe, the last time i was in T.O. I came was only there for like 2 days for this thing on Much Music and then I had to fly out to L.A. to do Science. Those two days were TOOO short!!! Toronto (and i don't want to piss off anyone in Atlanta or Seattle or San Francisco or Philly) is probably my favourite city in North America. (then come the others I mentioned). I have a long but unknown history with toronto. My parents used to go there for summer vacation from when I was a baby to a pre-teen. It is really familiar to me and I get a bigsmile every time i see the airport or roll up on it via the QEW.
By the way, there is this Chinese food place that I wonder if it is still there...It lights stuff on fire and then serves it to you. It's like a 5 star restaurant but I forget the name do you know?
And i'd be happy to climb your CN Tower and explore the underground with you. Perhaps we can even chill on the beach? (well this time of year we'd be chillin' literally!)
Are you trying to flirt?Your Moo-Goo-Guy-Pan-Man... Man.

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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
i saw you in my dream last night twice, once playing the ney.tuz wrote:funny I was humming heart shaped box just a couple of days ago out of nowhere.
haven't d/led this.. sometmes it's all to much and i say 'no bloody d/ls' and this is like one of those times :p mebbe later. still.. 4 pages of comments :p
"i lost my robot" is making waaay more sense now.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Loud and boomy, doesnt sit right, and id be more than happy to mix it my way and see what you think.Lady J wrote:If i gave you the source tracks would you go down on it and show me what you can do? heheKriminal wrote:Baas could do with some attention in the mix.
seriously, is it too loud? too soft? too compressed? not compressed enough?
personally i think it may be a bit loud.
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
yepLady J wrote:
i get it. You like Crewsade
nice one, gimme gimme gimmeThe final version should be out sometime next year. It's been masterd and ish...
well, link not working today, nevermind.As for the mashup. Yeh i thought of that. Listen to the original instrumental version i did here and you'll notice a difference in the snare. Are the guitars filthier?
http://www.toneheaded.com/sounds/Nirvan ... pedBox.mp3
is it me or is there a bit of innuendo and sexual undercurrent in this thread... you should know better Lady j, all these sad blokes sat infront of their pc's, discussing latencies and aliasing...then you come along
jim
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Steady on old chapSteven West wrote:Daaaaaaaamn GIRL!You'd make the 'T' stand for talent in this town for sure!
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Anytime you wish to come up to climb around my (ahem) CN Tower, or get lost in the underground here... I'll do my best to be the 'Host with the most'.![]()
Your Moo-Goo-Guy-Pan-Man... Man.
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Lady J wrote:
I think you'd look better with me on your arm, m'dear
I can do a great Billy Idol sneer, apparently:

x Jim
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- KVRian
- 1219 posts since 12 Aug, 2002
Whooo....weee. 
-9.0 db average RMS
-8.65 db total RMS
We certainly like our compression don't we?
Lots of extra headroom to be gained here if the low energy was brought under control. To get these kind of tracks loud and clean you have to really get brutal with the deep lows...18db per octave lo-cut filter at 28hz and kiss it all goodbye. And that's just a start. Loudness potential is a mix thing, all the smash happens in the middle.
Lots of limiting distortion going on here too, lass. Sounds like Stevie Marcussen had a go at it.
Less aggressive limiting would open this up more and create a more powerful contrast when the hook hits. Lots more slam as well. Kind of a 'love your dynamics and your dynamics will love you' thing.
Lovely approach you took to this cover and, as usual for you, nice guitar playing/tones.
-9.0 db average RMS
-8.65 db total RMS
We certainly like our compression don't we?
Lots of extra headroom to be gained here if the low energy was brought under control. To get these kind of tracks loud and clean you have to really get brutal with the deep lows...18db per octave lo-cut filter at 28hz and kiss it all goodbye. And that's just a start. Loudness potential is a mix thing, all the smash happens in the middle.
Lots of limiting distortion going on here too, lass. Sounds like Stevie Marcussen had a go at it.
Less aggressive limiting would open this up more and create a more powerful contrast when the hook hits. Lots more slam as well. Kind of a 'love your dynamics and your dynamics will love you' thing.
Lovely approach you took to this cover and, as usual for you, nice guitar playing/tones.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders - Lao Tzu
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
EDITED: link fixed

oops that link should have been: http://www.toneheaded.com/sounds/Nirvan ... oxDemo.mp3Hunter wrote:yepLady J wrote:
i get it. You like Crewsade
nice one, gimme gimme gimmeThe final version should be out sometime next year. It's been masterd and ish...next year? thats ages, awww
well, link not working today, nevermind.As for the mashup. Yeh i thought of that. Listen to the original instrumental version i did here and you'll notice a difference in the snare. Are the guitars filthier?
http://www.toneheaded.com/sounds/Nirvan ... pedBox.mp3
I didn't start the fireis it me or is there a bit of innuendo and sexual undercurrent in this thread...
you should know better Lady j, all these sad blokes sat infront of their pc's, discussing latencies and aliasing...then you come along![]()
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it's entertainment. so what if they get hot and bothered? I neither condemn nor condone it
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
I think you'd look better with me on your arm, m'dearHunter wrote:
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Hey not bad, not at all.. Hmmmmmm.... Steven where is your piccie?
But can you do the "Rebel Yell?" And more importantly, -when- do you do it? Can I make you do it? Do you like milkshakes?I can do a great Billy Idol sneer, apparently:
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x Jim
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
kilroy wrote:Whooo....weee.
-9.0 db average RMS
-8.65 db total RMS
We certainly like our compression don't we?
Lots of extra headroom to be gained here if the low energy was brought under control. To get these kind of tracks loud and clean you have to really get brutal with the deep lows...18db per octave lo-cut filter at 28hz and kiss it all goodbye. And that's just a start. Loudness potential is a mix thing, all the smash happens in the middle.
Lots of limiting distortion going on here too, lass. Sounds like Stevie Marcussen had a go at it.
Less aggressive limiting would open this up more and create a more powerful contrast when the hook hits. Lots more slam as well. Kind of a 'love your dynamics and your dynamics will love you' thing.
Lovely approach you took to this cover and, as usual for you, nice guitar playing/tones.
Ok. Well like I said, I'm no engineer. I will try again with your suggestions but I'm giving the track to Kriminal track by track (MINUS the vocals) to mix as he wishes.
I really have to confess I don't really understand how compression and limiting work. I did roll off the eq below 50hz but i guess not enough (or the bass track was just too loud). Nevertheless 30,000+ people liked it.. Overcompressed as it is. But still i'd like to do better and replace that with a better version.
So thank you Kriminal for the offer and everyone else (including you kilroy) for the advice
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- KVRian
- 1219 posts since 12 Aug, 2002
Pffffft. Dynamics???kilroy wrote:Kind of a 'love your dynamics and your dynamics will love you' thing.
Duh...it's Nirvana, you silly git.
Jeez, what a pathetic wank this bloke is.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders - Lao Tzu
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- KVRAF
- 2108 posts since 31 Dec, 2002 from London, UK
Well, there's been a fair bit of praise so I suppose I can say that I'm not that impressed considering the amount of feedback this tune has got.
I actually love Evanescence, like some of Missy's tunes and Nirvana would definately rate high on my rock/metal list (which is quite short btw). Heck I actually really liked an RnB tune Lady J posted but......this
The vocals are too low in the mix first of all, most Amy's. Missy's vocal is pretty good for the tune, but I suppose "heart shaped box" never was one of my Nirvana favorites. Do a "Smells like" mash please
Amy Lees vocals don't add to the tune imo, and I do actually like her voice a lot. Actually went to their concert last year.
Oh well, you can't please everyone.
I actually love Evanescence, like some of Missy's tunes and Nirvana would definately rate high on my rock/metal list (which is quite short btw). Heck I actually really liked an RnB tune Lady J posted but......this
The vocals are too low in the mix first of all, most Amy's. Missy's vocal is pretty good for the tune, but I suppose "heart shaped box" never was one of my Nirvana favorites. Do a "Smells like" mash please
Amy Lees vocals don't add to the tune imo, and I do actually like her voice a lot. Actually went to their concert last year.
Oh well, you can't please everyone.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1818 posts since 5 Apr, 2002 from Seattle, WA, USA
Ain't that the truth. I had many people on another forum saying the absolute opposite of you. "Missy Elliot is too quiet, I wish she had been louder on the tune, that rock girl's vocals are pretty loud so why not Missy?"Armadillo wrote: Oh well, you can't please everyone.
hehe...

