KVR Audio

STIM · Post by **STIM** » Wed May 19, 2021 6:09 pm

antic604 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:59 am GUI scaling is coming in v12, but only because Reason Rack Plugin also needs it...

But will that include the piano roll as well or is the scaling just for the rack?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed May 19, 2021 6:24 pm

STIM wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 6:09 pm
antic604 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:59 am GUI scaling is coming in v12, but only because Reason Rack Plugin also needs it...
But will that include the piano roll as well or is the scaling just for the rack?

It will, obviously

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed May 19, 2021 7:17 pm

Is this the first time that a major release for a DAW has had a headline feature of 'better graphics' and people have been thrilled!

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Wed May 19, 2021 7:22 pm

SLiC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:17 pm Is this the first time that a major release for a DAW has had a headline feature of 'better graphics' and people have been thrilled!

i wouldn't exactly say 'thrilled'

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Wed May 19, 2021 7:32 pm

SLiC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:17 pm Is this the first time that a major release for a DAW has had a headline feature of 'better graphics' and people have been thrilled!

I remember it being quite similar when Image-Line released FL Studio 12.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed May 19, 2021 7:45 pm

I guess in this case for many people (like me) on 4K we had just given up on Reason so this is a big deal! It's not so much about eye candy (although there is nothing wrong with that) but actually being able to use it without squinting!

djrevise5 · Post by **djrevise5** » Wed May 19, 2021 8:55 pm

SLiC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 7:45 pm I guess in this case for many people (like me) on 4K we had just given up on Reason so this is a big deal! It's not so much about eye candy (although there is nothing wrong with that) but actually being able to use it without squinting!

And for people like me that only use it as a plugin

I am looking forward to the new sampler, combinator and browser as well as the higher resolution! I do feel bad for the people who use it standalone but the writing has been on the wall for a long time as far as them not overhauling the sequencer.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed May 19, 2021 9:35 pm

If they really keep ignoring that fundamental part of their user-base karma will get them eventually, I don't doubt that - and then you won't see me weeping at their grave either.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed May 19, 2021 9:48 pm

jens wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 9:35 pm If they really keep ignoring that fundamental part of their user-base karma will get them eventually, I don't doubt that - and then you won't see me weeping at their grave either.

Not if RPP users will outnumber and/or out-$ them

Crossinger · Post by **Crossinger** » Thu May 20, 2021 5:56 am

antic604 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 9:48 pm
jens wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 9:35 pm If they really keep ignoring that fundamental part of their user-base karma will get them eventually, I don't doubt that - and then you won't see me weeping at their grave either.
Not if RPP users will outnumber and/or out-$ them

Exactly. In 2019 I was close to abandon Reason. With RRP I'm in the boat again, use my RE's on a regular basis and enjoy my switch to a new DAW. And I'm willing to spend money on RE's and upgrades. So RS did everything right.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu May 20, 2021 6:37 am

I was tempted to upgrade my intro license and buy Reason for the .... nth time! But is the protection still either installing Codemeter or login every time you to use?

keel · Post by **keel** » Thu May 20, 2021 6:40 am

EnGee wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:37 am I was tempted to upgrade my intro license and buy Reason for the .... nth time! But is the protection still either installing Codemeter or login every time you to use?

Yes, sadly. Only reason why I dont use the plugin is I have to login every single time. Would be nice, if you would need to login like every 30 days or something.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu May 20, 2021 6:51 am

Crossinger wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 5:56 am
antic604 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 9:48 pm
jens wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 9:35 pm If they really keep ignoring that fundamental part of their user-base karma will get them eventually, I don't doubt that - and then you won't see me weeping at their grave either.
Not if RPP users will outnumber and/or out-$ them
Exactly. In 2019 I was close to abandon Reason. With RRP I'm in the boat again, use my RE's on a regular basis and enjoy my switch to a new DAW. And I'm willing to spend money on RE's and upgrades. So RS did everything right.

Well, RIGHT for you and some others, but not for everyone. I got Reason 10 in 2017 because I actually liked the DAW a lot - the sequencer, despite being a bit on the 'outdated' side has some super cool stuff, like automation clips, novel (for me, at the time) stretching of MIDI & audio clips right on the timeline, blocks mode, pattern lane/clips, multiple MIDI lanes, built-in pitch correction, etc. I also fell in love with the "SSL" mixer, too. The Rack was just a cherry on top that sealed the deal.

There's many more people like me, who are not happy with RS slowly but surely abandoning the DAW portion

But probably not enough anymore...

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu May 20, 2021 6:53 am

keel wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:40 am
EnGee wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:37 am I was tempted to upgrade my intro license and buy Reason for the .... nth time! But is the protection still either installing Codemeter or login every time you to use?
Yes, sadly. Only reason why I dont use the plugin is I have to login every single time. Would be nice, if you would need to login like every 30 days or something.

Err? You only have to login if you're subscribing, rent-to-owning or demoing something (and for Reason+, obviously). For normal use it's just like any other DAW.

Crossinger · Post by **Crossinger** » Thu May 20, 2021 7:40 am

antic604 wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:51 am There's many more people like me, who are not happy with RS slowly but surely abandoning the DAW portion

Yes, I agree. And I also see the complaints over there at ReasonTalk. By no means I make fun of those who expected "more" from Reason as DAW. I've also waited some years for improvements until I realized that this will probably never come. The rule "always buy for what it is, never for what you expect it to become" applies again.

Reason 12 announced