Chord progressions and song structure

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

If all you can do is keep saying that I've said anywhere that the two are same

Oh, so they are not the same? Well, it all started with you denying they were essentially different, when I claimed that Jazz was controversial to classical music among other by being built on the tritonus. So now they are not so not-so-different anymore? Can you make up your mind?

But I do find it hilarious that a person who seems to be keen on Fuxian counterpoint (which is considered outdated even in books that took their cues directly from it, i.e. CiC by Salzer & Schachter) is giving me talks about how I would not pass in some educational facility

Whatever. I am really more Jeppesen than Fux fyi. What is obvious to me is that you wouldn't know what Fuxian counterpoint is and has never used that or anything else, including the most simple guidelines for making Jazz. You are but one out of million talkers, I am a practitioner.

And speaking about Fux, the teacher of "Jazz" masters like Mozart, Bach, Haydn and thus foundational for classical music in the classical era: Did you know that according to his system, the minor and major seven are actually dissonants? The building blocks of Jazz together with the tritonus? And you try to blur the limits between the styles with all your fallacies, even though such a blur has no practical purpose. What is it good for? It is just lame.

[Functional]

I even outlined in one of my original responses differences such as maj7 being an interval where the melody can rest. Which means that you're barely even incapable of actually reading what I've written. Not quite Q.E.D since that wasn't my point, but, it is to show the extent of the ignorance in your responses. A whole lot of talk about being this and that, various accusations of me saying this and that when I specifically haven't and this time around even a clear proof about you ignoring specifically something I've said.

All this reeks to me is of desperation. I have no clue why you're having such a rough time comprehending something fairly elementary - like how Chopin was swinging before jazz ever existed - and how lot the swing era & early bebop people took specifically their lessons from the music of Chopin. It's not hard to understand, you're just being incredibly daft.

And, no offense - but you brought this up yourself by bragging about stuff like "being a practitioner" or about how you're an educated composer in both camps. Based on the music in your SC link - which I sincerely think is fine in every regard - nothing about it shows me that you're a practitioner nor a composer in either camps. The point is though, that I (and probably many other people) ignore bragging entirely unless at minimum there's some actual proof in the pudding. It doesn't look good even then, but at least you should have something to back it up with. If not, I can't quite differentiate you from the "talkers" you talked about.

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[TribeOfHǫfuð]

And, no offense - but you brought this up yourself by bragging about stuff like "being a practitioner" or about how you're an educated composer in both camps. Based on the music in your SC link - which I sincerely think is fine in every regard - nothing about it shows me that you're a practitioner nor a composer in either camps.

Is that so? Try make a rhythm violin arrangement in minstrel style as I do on Freya’s Dance, this takes some theory, or check out the very Fuxian harmonizations of The Plough and the Sickle, or the counterpoints/polyphony of Valkyrie, where e.g. different melodies meet at the end. There is not much Jazz, I’ll give you that.

I am afraid that what this confirms is my suspicion that you do not have a clue because you are not a practitioner, but a talker. And now you should leave my music alone. Talking about being desparate. You do not piss on a member’s music to make a point or diss their composer skills, especially if you cannot even analyse it to get a valid statement about it, a-hole.

We are done. I’ll buy nothing from you Mr. Salesman. Your merchandise says Made in Hong-Kong and I am unimpressed to the bone.