KVR Audio

ferez21 · Post by **ferez21** » Sun May 23, 2021 6:29 am

I actually don't care about the effects themselves, but what intrigues me is the ability to chain VST plugins AND have global modulators that you can assign to any parameter on any of the loaded plugins.

This practically gives any DAW global modulators like Bitwig does natively, at least to some degree.

Anything like Magma out there?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm

Thanks for reminding me I own a Magma license. Last time I checked it was a bit buggy and development seems to have stopped with the death of Bernie.

Anyway how about BlueCat's Patchwork ?

https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... PatchWork/

ferez21 · Post by **ferez21** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:45 pm

Teksonik wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm Thanks for reminding me I own a Magma license. Last time I checked it was a bit buggy and development seems to have stopped with the death of Bernie.

Anyway how about BlueCat's Patchwork ?

https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... PatchWork/

It doesn't seem to have any modulations, which is the main feature i am after

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:57 pm

I don't think there is anything quite like it - but Magma became unuseable buggy with the introduction of its abillity to load VSTs, so perhaps this kind of stuff is better left to the DAW itself - most nowadays include tools for this - it's just the dinosaurs like Cubase which don't...

ferez21 · Post by **ferez21** » Sun May 23, 2021 3:13 pm

jens wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:57 pm I don't think there is anything quite like it - but Magma became unuseable buggy with the introduction of its abillity to load VSTs, so perhaps this kind of stuff is better left to the DAW itself - most nowadays include tools for this - it's just the dinosaurs like Cubase which don't...

If Studio One had it, it could have been the perfect DAW... hopefully in version 6.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun May 23, 2021 3:19 pm

Unify maybe? Not sure about the modulations.

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

jens · Post by **jens** » Sun May 23, 2021 3:38 pm

ferez21 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:13 pm
jens wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:57 pm I don't think there is anything quite like it - but Magma became unuseable buggy with the introduction of its abillity to load VSTs, so perhaps this kind of stuff is better left to the DAW itself - most nowadays include tools for this - it's just the dinosaurs like Cubase which don't...
If Studio One had it, it could have been the perfect DAW... hopefully in version 6.

Well, in Studio One you have at least the Routing window plus there is the LFO tool. Not quite the same, but I think it is more flexible and powerful and once you got used to it also more comfortable to use than any 3rd party solution.

waltercruz · Post by **waltercruz** » Sun May 23, 2021 5:36 pm

Teksonik wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 3:19 pm Unify maybe? Not sure about the modulations.

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/unify-standard/

I just checked and it seems that not, which amazes me as Unify is such a monster plugin!

But the developers is really friendly here on kvr and it's worthy to try to ask that feature - at least the LFO part seems so obvious on Unify workflow that I thought that it was already possible.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun May 23, 2021 6:08 pm

Well then I'm running out of ideas. Kushview Element maybe ?

https://kushview.net/element/

Other than that FL Studio's Patcher comes to mind but it isn't available as a separate plugin.

Magma is still for sale but at a rather steep price of $199 considering it hasn't been updated since 2015 and was buggy the last time I used it.

Shame as it is a cool plugin with what are basically the Plug and Mix effects included.

Dmitry Sches was one of the developers and I remember working with him on testing the bugs in version 1.6.6 but I don't remember why development stopped perhaps because Bernie Torelli passed away in early 2016.

ferez21 · Post by **ferez21** » Sun May 23, 2021 6:10 pm

I think I've found one, MUX by MuLab, it is a modular synth/fx and also can host VST plugins, gonna give it a try

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Mon May 24, 2021 5:36 am

Check out also Plogue Bidule...

ferez21 · Post by **ferez21** » Mon May 24, 2021 5:40 am

Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:36 am Check out also Plogue Bidule...

No modulations in that one unfortunately

RikkShow · Post by **RikkShow** » Mon May 24, 2021 9:57 am

Cherry Audio

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon May 24, 2021 10:02 am

RikkShow wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:57 am Cherry Audio

No

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Mon May 24, 2021 10:18 am

Melda MXXX, unfortunately no third party plugs

Is there anything out there like Magma?